Pariah

Udeni said:
Make pariah have 0-5% (max) diety spec, unpledge everybody currently pariah. Allow the current pariahs to repledge to any diety, and when you repledge your faction with the diety is set to whatever a normal person would have their faction at when they decide to pledge. That way nobody's all like "oh boo hoo, I have no diety spec now and now I can't do anything about it" its more of "oh boo hoo i dont have any diety spec, time to actually work to get a diety spec"
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Yeah, except we've already done all the shit that affects spec, so we'd be locked at 0-2%.

These suggestions are awful. What WORK is it that you did, exactly, that entitles you to being 2% overall better than a pariah + have an aug? Lets see:

You did the same exact quests that we also did for main quest and faction aug, and you pressed the right buttons to answer the right questions. We did those quests and we answered those questions too, we did that "work," we just didnt have to give a fuck if we typed cm d2 or cm d3.

AND you did an aug quest that got you the rest of your spec. You got an AUG for doing this. We haven't done that, and we don't have AUGs.
If we ever get an aug, "WORK" will be involved.

Stop being butthurt over nothing and trying to punish other people for making different choices (or fixing broken spec, like me). If I could, I would go back in time and pick a deity and get it right, because of how much pariahs lose out. And you want to make it worse because you perceive that you doing the same quests was some sort of tribulation because you had to read the wiki while you did it.
 
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Udeni said:
Make pariah have 0-5% (max) diety spec, unpledge everybody currently pariah. Allow the current pariahs to repledge to any diety, and when you repledge your faction with the diety is set to whatever a normal person would have their faction at when they decide to pledge. That way nobody's all like "oh boo hoo, I have no diety spec now and now I can't do anything about it" its more of "oh boo hoo i dont have any diety spec, time to actually work to get a diety spec"
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Sure so long as there's some really comprehensive announcement and explanation of that. Sounds good to me!

edit: you'd have to be able to re-do a lot of alignment hits though.
 
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Severien said:
Stop being butthurt over nothing and trying to punish other people for making different choices (or fixing broken spec, like me). If I could, I would go back in time and pick a deity and get it right, because of how much pariahs lose out. And you want to make it worse because you perceive that you doing the same quests was some sort of tribulation because you had to read the wiki while you did it.
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Bet you liked killing in any zone you wanted to being pariah and getting a free bonus for not having to work on it.
 
I feel like the extra 5% for managing spec bonus is enough for the people who swear.
The original intent (at least in my opinion) is to give a marginal increase to stuff for questing, managing the bonus, choosing dialogue carefully, etc. For those of us who enjoy questing, enjoy doing the extra "stuff" in game to be better (even slightly).

I mean, I don't really care how Pariah spec bonus is set because I always swear to something now a days. I don't think 15% as Pariah is bad though either. To big of a deal is made out of this. What it really boils down to is how you want to play.

If you want to be absolute best you can, min max the entire time, quest, manage chat choices, etc... Swear to something. Your reward is an aug (in some cases) + a permanent increase to alot of things even if it is slightly.

If you don't want to deal with it, don't want to do the extra quest, smash through quest dialogue just go Pariah. You shouldn't really be punished for it though. You will already be at a disadvantage compared to anyone 16% and higher.
 
Nebi said:
you sir beat everyone else. Diety spec is a part of the game...... You are only hesitant on changes cause it benefits you not loose 5% of free diety spec.
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I could care less if my 8th alt loses 5% spec because i pledged the wrong diety in 06 and pariah was the best route of fixing it. The point is you want to nerf a safety net for the bad people because you think you get something for nothing.

Nebi said:
Bet you liked killing in any zone you wanted to being pariah and getting a free bonus for not having to work on it.
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I bet you liked killing in any zone on your shaman and you received your spec by doing your aug quest ohhh no life is so bad nerf other people I wasnt forced to do a quest and i got to get my spec higher than anyone else that was forced / chose pariah. Your argument here is worthless.

And how is it a free bonus when i pledged althuna on my shaman he started at 10% So what your crying because u start behind and get to finish ahead?
 
You are being dumb here... Do you really care that much about poriah spec? Of all the things dev time could be invested in... this matters some how?

Beyond that, as krugz said poriah is an option for people who didnt know better and fucked up. I'd rather there be a quest in place to re-do diety choice, however difficult it needs to be, but there is not, so a lot of people have no option but go poriah. Saying they all should be nerfed because they essentially didnt read the wiki a bunch and/or have been on the server enough to know what the "right" diety/alignment choices are is just silly.
 
I tend to agree with Solo on this , it seems pretty silly and a waste of time for a small percent of the server population. Leave deity spec the way it is and put the tradeskilled type 8 in and move on or just get rid of it all together. But the missing type 8 aug slots needs to be addressed and many years ago :confused:
 
make it so the bounty augs with skill mods are also type 8 problem solved pariah is happy and other people dont care cause if they want they can trade thier diety aug for that skillmod and have 20% spec bonus
errbody wins

or!!!

give pariah a free aug with +25 begging and tinkering for lawls!
 
Was thinking since there isnt much interest in continuing the diety aug quest lines for the deitys that are missing them, and Cyzaine prob isnt coming back to finish the rest. And seems to be more then a few peeps that have picked one of these incomplete dietys with the impression they would have an aug questline one day.

Could there be a 1time grace reset for those that picked a deity that they are unhappy with.
It could include yellow text to inform the player that this choice is final and your alignment spec faction you have atm will be carry over or something so make an Informed and Knowledgeable decision using the wiki information before using your grace reset...?
 
I can't agree more than with Anti.
I even made a post located here http://forum.shardsofdalaya.com/showthread.php?t=27831 to sum up some of the things regarding these, and try to help you over worked and under-payed devs while helping us players who years ago thought we too would get one of these really cool and amazing quests to do when you had extra time to finish them.
Please look into this if there is time, the whole world of dalaya would really love you extra for it.
 
I think it is a fair request,
having your deity alignment you have atm be carried over will hurt those that just cmd d1'd thru pariah options,
so there is your negative effect.
While granting a one time grace reset will allow those that made a bad choice or started playing a char they never thought they'd really play a chance at questing without having to have the very tedious deity quests that noone wants to write completed.
 
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