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phlit said:
Didn't bother reading the thread, but...
Signing on for the idea of 'forced GM events' being bad.
I haven't logged in-game with any of my main toons since the Dark Rot thing has been around, partly because it's that holiday time of year, and partly because I can't be fucked to deal with the dark rot and that stuff. I know I'm not the only one in my guild with the same feelings/effect.
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Cadmium said:
Wow, only read the first page and then the last page. The logic here astounds me. How is this being forced? If Wiz decides to lower the amount of buff slots on day is that forced? If he decides to lower your attack, is that forced? No, it's his call on stats, quests, gear, skills, etc. So basically nothing is forced here. If the decision was that we HAD to help find the cure then I'd agree it was being forced and if you disagreed then you quit (oh make sure he sends your money back for your subscription, oh wait...). And don't say it's unfair and changes your character. That's like saying it's unfair I have to do the master quest to get the aug. You can just choose to not do the quest and you won't have the good aug and the same could be said for not doing anything about the dark rot.

I don't agree with everything that the admins and Wiz do but I've accepted that this is his game and his rules. You either choose to abide or leave. Freedom is a wonderful thing.

I know I'm real late to the party on this but saw the last post and had to comment.

I agree with you on the "it's not forced" thing. My whole deal has been how it's implemented, not the event itself. And I of course accept that it's Wiz's game and his rules. However, you might notice that this board is called "suggestions & requests", showing that he is willing to listen to...suggestions & requests! If you see a problem or have a concern with the way the game is going, you should be willing to talk about it rather than say "Just take whatever gets thrown at ya and shut up!" You'll notice that Wiz said he would take some of the concerns under consideration. If he chooses to ignore what everyone says, that is indeed his perogative, but if that's what he wanted to do, this board wouldn't exist in the first place.
 
I have to admit the past few days I really lost alot of interest in the game just because of this "forced event" thing. In my opinion its a bad idea, but thats my opinion. Heres some reasons why i think this isnt really what people want to have in a game:

1. Quest to contain the disease.. It shouldnt be the way its done. Like it is now, theres 30 people in Athica just waitin for the next turn in, mostly alts. It has certainly opened a market for some bored people who hang out to farm the quest items so somebody with a bit of money buys it all and gets himself cured.

2. It opens up the door for people who have no real interest in the game but to make other peoples life harder by spreading the disease. Imho, when the patch was brought in that made is possible to spread a disease to someone else, i already worried about this, but now i realised its just the tip of the iceberg. This is really so annoying.

3. It certainly divides the playerbase. Sure, thats some kind of (weird) roleplay i guess. But i think it sucks that people nowadays have to choose their groups by checking every single person if hes infected or not. I know of certain cases where people wont even log on their main toon, because they just dont want to lose the buffslot. Me personally i got the disease before i even knew about it. So FUCK ME for being online at the wrong time i guess.

4. The quest itself is just a pain in the ass. Theres only 1 thing that couldve made it worse. Add like a 3 day spawn to the loottable

Personally Im thinking about taking a break, until the people who had this idea in the first place have come to their senses. Sure, go ahead i love events and roleplaying. But theres alot of people who dont give a crap, me included, and play this game because of different reasons. Why you didnt make this thing affect only "RP" tagged characters? Its just a pain in the ass. I know it will prevent me from raiding, i have to click too many benifical things even without losing that buffslot => You could have at least moved it to the short duration buff bar/bard song bar.

On top of that, 50 hours really isnt alot. If i got holidays i can get that easily within 1 week. Another reason to just stay logged out until this insanity is over. Am i addicted to this game? I am. Will that stop me from taking a break? It wont. Im just gonna roleplay hibernation and come back in a month (if i still had a subscription i would cancel it right now)

nuff said
 
zodium said:
i need a huge puking smaller which in turn will puke even smaller :psyduck: to make a proper response to this thread


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samus12345 said:
I agree with you on the "it's not forced" thing.

People who think 'participating' in this 'event' that is apparently happening to Dalaya isn't forced are clearly needing to go back to school (that's soon, right?).
Just because it's Wiz's server blah blah doesn't mean he's not forcing people to do or be a part of something.
I've read *the most retarded* arguments ever about how this isn't forced.... (gj Cadmium particularly).
Not wanting to get into a mud flinging contest with a bunch of newbies, but really, yes it's forced to have dark rot if you want to play at the minute, no it's not the end of the world, yes it pisses some people off more than others. Either way, we should be able to have our 'say', regardless of whether Wiz ignores it or not. Yes it's Wiz's server, but lets not kid ourselves, the server is nothing without the players. That's why Wiz sensibly has 'Suggestions and Requests' and all the other forums for player feedback.

I won't reply in the thread again.
Dark Rot *should* have been spreadable to *RP* tagged players only; it was a mistake to go about this the way Wiz did, in my opinion.
 
phlit said:
People who think 'participating' in this 'event' that is apparently happening to Dalaya isn't forced are clearly needing to go back to school (that's soon, right?).
Just because it's Wiz's server blah blah doesn't mean he's not forcing people to do or be a part of something.
I've read *the most retarded* arguments ever about how this isn't forced.... (gj Cadmium particularly).
Not wanting to get into a mud flinging contest with a bunch of newbies, but really, yes it's forced to have dark rot if you want to play at the minute, no it's not the end of the world, yes it pisses some people off more than others. Either way, we should be able to have our 'say', regardless of whether Wiz ignores it or not. Yes it's Wiz's server, but lets not kid ourselves, the server is nothing without the players. That's why Wiz sensibly has 'Suggestions and Requests' and all the other forums for player feedback.

I won't reply in the thread again.
Dark Rot *should* have been spreadable to *RP* tagged players only; it was a mistake to go about this the way Wiz did, in my opinion.

Having Dark Rot is forced if you want to group or raid, yes. Participating in the event is not. It would be different if there were never any people who were interested in taking part in events, but they're always very well-attended, Dark Rot or no. Are some people willing to go only because they have the disease? Probably. Are most? Judging by the masses who have done events in the past with no guarantee of any kind of reward, I seriously doubt it.
 
robopirateninja said:
I'll pay 500 plat in game to anyone who makes a :psyduck: version of that smiley for me, I didn't make that one.

it already exists

theres one of :psyduck: with his eyes swelling up and then exploding in a shower of blood

someone made a huge version of that where instead of blood its smaller :psyduck: s
 
You could have avoided Dark Rot if you were careful. Just group and raid with people who do not have it. It was avoidable, but most chose not to avoid it.
 
Spiritplx said:
You could have avoided Dark Rot if you were careful. Just group and raid with people who do not have it. It was avoidable, but most chose not to avoid it.
Exactly. It's pretty easy to avoid TBH. Just have to use less inhabited areas and group with people you know.
 
Brimztone said:
Exactly. It's pretty easy to avoid TBH. Just have to use less inhabited areas and group with people you know.

This isnt really true. A lot of it is luck also.

Went to Mielechc earlier with my wife and even /w alled each zone before I went in to make sure it was unoccupied. An hour later another group came in and the puller ran over and bam dark rot.

It isnt all spread in cities =p
 
Waldoff said:
This isnt really true. A lot of it is luck also.

Went to Mielechc earlier with my wife and even /w alled each zone before I went in to make sure it was unoccupied. An hour later another group came in and the puller ran over and bam dark rot.

It isnt all spread in cities =p

It is not all spread in cities, and yes, luck does have a little to do with it, but exp'ing in zones that are less frequented/can only have 6 people would really help avoid it. If you are cautious enough, you should be able to steer clear.
 
Spiritplx said:
You could have avoided Dark Rot if you were careful. Just group and raid with people who do not have it. It was avoidable, but most chose not to avoid it.

Note the past tense. Everyone on the server would have to have been careful, and since the vast majority aren't, its rapid spread was a foregone conclusion.
 
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