Class Top 5 Thread

Otcho said:
Because you are dumb and do not grasp core mechanics of the game like how better items make you a better character.

Horok is infinitely better than shadowstaff.
Matron gloves.
Jur.
An assload of autoattack mods.


Fidel is a significantly better dps
Fidel is a significantly better tank
Fidel is the significantly better toon
Every other difference PALES in comparison to these things.

I was going to make a really shitty post and call you bad again but I figured maybe I could give you an idea of why everyone thinks you are a joke and unqualified to make any character comparisons. If you think thanman is better than fidel then your whole thread is bankrupt of any integrity.
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You seem to miss the fact that Fidel is missing the following:
2% crit strike (1% from tome 1% from gear)
5 dmg redcution
8% spell crit (hello procs)
Tales of Rapid recovery (hello stances)
Vitality 1, 2, and 3
Secrets of the weefolk
+10 1 hnd blunt
60+ STR


All those Are DPS than fidel lacks,
Now if you really want me to Compare them I will stat by stat but not right now.
But if you going to make a post .. at least look at everything not just what you want to see.
 
Blubuds said:
You seem to miss the fact that Fidel is missing the following:
2% crit strike (1% from tome 1% from gear)
5 dmg redcution
8% spell crit (hello procs)
Tales of Rapid recovery (hello stances)
Vitality 1, 2, and 3
Secrets of the weefolk
+10 1 hnd blunt
60+ STR


All those Are DPS than fidel lacks,
Now if you really want me to Compare them I will stat by stat but not right now.
But if you going to make a post .. at least look at everything not just what you want to see.
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Absolutely nothing you just said matters. The only important note is the spell crit which still does not matter because horok jur and matron gloves absolutely shit on everything. You should maybe value the input of the majority of players telling you that you are wrong instead of being thickheaded here and making yourself look like a butt who has no other intention than putting his friends on the top 5 list whether they deserve it or not.
 
Blubuds said:
You seem to miss the fact that Fidel is missing the following:
2% crit strike (1% from tome 1% from gear)
5 dmg redcution
8% spell crit (hello procs)
Tales of Rapid recovery (hello stances)
Vitality 1, 2, and 3
Secrets of the weefolk
+10 1 hnd blunt
60+ STR


All those Are DPS than fidel lacks,
Now if you really want me to Compare them I will stat by stat but not right now.
But if you going to make a post .. at least look at everything not just what you want to see.
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Let me know how damage reduction, vitality tomes and wee folk add dps.
 
The +10 1hb mod while using a 2hb and being the basis for the dps pass is clearly the winner here.
 
Radaere said:
Let me know how damage reduction, vitality tomes and wee folk add dps.
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DMG red. Hey look i'm a monk I pull mobs and take less dmg doing it .. oh hey look I lived so i'm dpsing instead.
Vit .. if your alive you can dps
Wee Folk .. omg look Death save, saved me .. I Can still swing at the mob..

Don't See whats hard to understand about that
 
Otcho said:
Absolutely nothing you just said matters. The only important note is the spell crit which still does not matter because horok jur and matron gloves absolutely shit on everything. You should maybe value the input of the majority of players telling you that you are wrong instead of being thickheaded here and making yourself look like a butt who has no other intention than putting his friends on the top 5 list whether they deserve it or not.
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Ok first off you must have me confused with your guild mates.
Second there has been quite a few CW players and FWF added to list.
Third who is this Majority, Cuz atm I see you .. and you def are not the majority'
Fourth your a troll, so I should care what you post why?
 
Blubuds said:
DMG red. Hey look i'm a monk I pull mobs and take less dmg doing it .. oh hey look I lived so i'm dpsing instead.
Vit .. if your alive you can dps
Wee Folk .. omg look Death save, saved me .. I Can still swing at the mob..

Don't See whats hard to understand about that
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Let me know how much 5 damage reduction helps when monsters hit for thousands and you can just not be hit by them.

Let me know how much Vitality 3 (75 hp) helps when Fidel still has more hit points.

Secret: feign death and heals can keep you alive to dps just fine, in fact, that's how this game works.
 
Do you realize that Vitality tomes show on someones fomelo? So there is not really any point in pointing them out, just say X person has more hp.

I didn't like rad's thread because it was inaccurate, but yours is just as bad. You created this post entirely to put yourself on top 5, and then moved yourself past a character you clearly do not pass. That in and of itself completely invalidates the list. Vah is amazing, especially on a tank, and on a paladin the healing bonuses are crazy. You also appear to have no CSI which happens to be a really important focus for paladins. Without those, there is no way you pass Lind.
 
I'm also not sure how you decided Jraul passes Versul...

tanking difference is basically 80hp vs 30ac and 2% mitigation, so versul def wins that.

versul is also wearing some wrong gear, i could swear he was over 10khp.

So once again a questionable pass at best, and probably not a pass at all. Makes your thread completely invalid and shows just how poor your understanding of the game is. I'm not trying to troll here, just my honest opinion.
 
Also how is it that you think Nwaij passes Tarutao?!?!?!?!?!?

I think you are just looking at stats and ignoring all the procs/worneffects/clickies on highend gear... but even just looking at stats Tarutao is a clear win.. even with all of his horrible gear choices. He has more evoc, he has rujik hat, he has better bracer procs, he has a NZ ring (worn runspeed is invaluable and one of the best stats in the game given how movement intensive endgame fights are). Nwaij has dodging tears, and a few other better tomes, tao has better class tomes, but tao does more dps and runs faster and that is what matters most.

I'm done looking at more of these, i guess i thought this was attempting to be accurate, but its looking like more of a troll than Rad's thread.
 
Silosobi said:
I'm also not sure how you decided Jraul passes Versul...

tanking difference is basically 80hp vs 30ac and 2% mitigation, so versul def wins that.

versul is also wearing some wrong gear, i could swear he was over 10khp.

So once again a questionable pass at best, and probably not a pass at all. Makes your thread completely invalid and shows just how poor your understanding of the game is. I'm not trying to troll here, just my honest opinion.
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This was already mentioned did you read the thread? .. The fact you brought this up says no

Second your so wrong on pally. And yes healing is important .. Thats why lind was dropped down (hello missing HI 7 or 8) so .. you just proved my point by saying i'm wrong. (also might be the fact he is missing : Bane, magic focus entirely)

Third it's my thread don't like make your own. Till then i'm the one doing the work and you can shove up right up your ass
 
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Silosobi said:
Also how is it that you think Nwaij passes Tarutao?!?!?!?!?!?

I think you are just looking at stats and ignoring all the procs/worneffects/clickies on highend gear... but even just looking at stats Tarutao is a clear win.. even with all of his horrible gear choices. He has more evoc, he has rujik hat, he has better bracer procs, he has a NZ ring (worn runspeed is invaluable and one of the best stats in the game given how movement intensive endgame fights are). Nwaij has dodging tears, and a few other better tomes, tao has better class tomes, but tao does more dps and runs faster and that is what matters most.

I'm done looking at more of these, i guess i thought this was attempting to be accurate, but its looking like more of a troll than Rad's thread.
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I havn't touched that, try agian troll
 
Silosobi said:
Tarutao.. even with all of his horrible gear choices.
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You do realize why he makes those choices, right? They aren't horrible choices, they are min/maxing under his constraints. But really, the only real reason keeping Taru behind Nwaij for so long was that Nwaij had superior tomes, competitive gear, and Vah back. Now it's really just that Nwaij has Vah back and Dodging Tears over Taru, so the situation is much different now.
 
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