Class Top 5 Thread

Blubuds said:
I havn't touched that, try agian troll
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Where did you get it from?!? Tao has been above Nwaij for close to a year.

You said Jraul might not be a pass... so why move him if its not a pass.

Healing is SUPER important on a paladin.

So you are telling me that 3% heal > 16% cast speed AND 50% cast speed, 30% heal, 30% healcrit, 1000hp, bardspeed, etc for 30sec per fight? The cast speed alone makes lind a superior healer.
 
When you can't present a valid argument, call people names. That's the best way to win any dispute.
 
Animand said:
You do realize why he makes those choices, right? They aren't horrible choices, they are min/maxing under his constraints. But really, the only real reason keeping Taru behind Nwaij for so long was that Nwaij had superior tomes, competitive gear, and Vah back. Now it's really just that Nwaij has Vah back and Dodging Tears over Taru, so the situation is much different now.
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They are not min/maxing under his constraints. Tao has been on raids where the CSI8 arms rotted or went to alts(he might even have these). He has also been around when the Gruniet boots dropped in similar circumstances. if he linked for these items I can say 100% they would have been awarded to him. If he put on these items, he could wear Gan neck, 43 sword, and experiment shield. He would gain hp/mana/div/-agg/other good stats. He would also gain 1% spellcrit. He should be wearing the Gan neck 90% of the time anyway because RI is rarely needed and spellcrit always helps your dps.

What irked me even more was wearing the easy turuj caster bracer for 3 evo over a hellcall, which is a lot more dps.
 
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Silosobi said:
Where did you get it from?!? Tao has been above Nwaij for close to a year.

You said Jraul might not be a pass... so why move him if its not a pass.

Healing is SUPER important on a paladin.

So you are telling me that 3% heal > 16% cast speed AND 50% cast speed, 30% heal, 30% healcrit, 1000hp, bardspeed, etc for 30sec per fight? The cast speed alone makes lind a superior healer.
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HERE IS LINK TO PALLY SPELLS... I highly suggest you look at cast time
http://wiki.shardsofdalaya.com/index.php/Paladin_spells

So you can go ahead and make you list of things it changes.

AND YES I WOULD RATHER HAVE THAT 3% ALL THE TIME THEN FOR 30 SECONDS

Here apparently you don't know spells at all let me link them again
http://wiki.shardsofdalaya.com/index.php/Paladin_spells

Everything you claiming that makes him better is covered mostly of it by spells he doesn't have.

You still never adressed the fact that he is missing Bane and Magic focus entirely.. So yes I Would have rather have my nukes land for 7% more and my UNDEAD nuke land for 28% more ..

That said your still wrong, And very bad at trying to prove a point.
 
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Silosobi said:
http://wiki.shardsofdalaya.com/index.php/Spell:_Touch_of_Vitality

Covered by spells he doesnt have? You mean runic 2? I wasnt aware that improved healing.

Paladin nukes is a funny joke... 7% of damage that just doesnt matter (and doesnt increase agro). Bane is cool when you farm undead tunnels, but thats what swap gear is for.

Its all about the vah back though which you obviously dont understand the power of
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Uzz VS lind

HP 9672 Vs 9532 Uzzdaar
AC 2380 Vs 2336 Uzzdaar
Mana 8009 Vs 7689 Uzzdaar
Ft 22 vS 16 Big Uzzdaar
Regen 20 vs 23 Lindstrom
Haste 47 Vs 47 Tie
Atk 1320 Vs 1328 Lindstrom
Worn atk 150 Vs 75 Uzzdaar

Uzzdaar takes the Group by a lot


STr 442 Vs 451 Lindstrom
STA 525* vs 515* Uzzdaar
Agi 402 Vs 422 Lindstrom
Dex 354 Vs 355 Lindstrom
Wis 425 vs 378 Uzzdaar
Int 363 vs 337 Uzzdaar
Cha 459 Vs 482 Lindstrom

*= Lindstrom STA is capped with 3 tomes at 515 (551)
*= Uzzdaar STA is capped with All STA tomes at 525 (547)
Real Numbers are in (X) Used left plane.
Going to call this a wash They are very close. Some by 1 ponit

Resists
MR 300 Vs 357 Lindstrom
Fr 315 Vs 194 Uzzdaar
cr 269 Vs 326 Lindstrom
pr 152 Vs 202 Lindstrom
Dr 243 vs 253 Lindstrom
Lindstrom takes this hands down ( he has tons of resist tomes done that give him large boost)



Diety 20 Vs 20 Tie Cap
Stun 40 vs 40 Tie Cap
Mind 40 Vs 17 Tie Cap
Crit 10 vs 10 Tie Cap
Aggresson 10 vs 10 Tie Cap
DR 25 Vs 25 Tie Cap

Wash


Skills
2hnd Slash 20 vs 0 Uzzdaar
Evo 3 vs 3 Tie
Parry 10 vs 14 Lindstrom
Repo 17 vs 12 Uzzdaar
Dodge 16 Vs 0 Uzzdaar
1hnb 10 vs 0 uzzdaar
1 hnd slash 0 vs 5 Lindstrom
Meditate 0 vs 10 Lindstrom
Block 0 vs 5 Lindstrom

Wash


Focus Effects
Mana Con 7 vs 7 Tie
Di 7 vs 7 tie
*HI 7 vs 6 Uzzdaar
aff 7 vs 7 Tie
Cast 0 vs 8 Lindstrom
Bane 8 vs 0 Uzzdaar
CS 8 VS 0 Uzzdaar
Cold 6 vs 0 Uzzdaar
Di 0 vs 6 Lindstrom
Magic 7 vs 0 Uzzdaar

Uzzdaar wins

Both have same charm

Spells
Runic 1 Tie
Runic 2 Uzzdaar
Class spell Tie
Shout Tie
Murk Tie

Uzzdaar

TOMES
Uzzdaar over Lindstrom
Tears 3, 4
Vit 1, 2
STA 4
Body resilience 3, 4
Understanding and working with runes


Lindstrom has over Uzzdaar

Wee Folk
Cha 1 , 2
Avoidance 3
Magic mast 1, 2
Evo 1, 2
Holy Cont 3


Nope sorry he doesn't pass .. only thing he wins in is Resists
And I would take 3% healing all the time, over having buff for 30 seconds any day

That said i'm done discussing that unless you can come up with a better argument other than vah back.
 
yeah lets just leave out the vah back, its not the single most powerful item in the game, probably so much so that it outweighs all those minor wins. I certainly havnt won countless 6man/raid encounters because clicking vah made people heal and dps MORE THAN TWICE AS WELL AS THEY NORALLY DO

You are hopeless though, you made the list to put yourself on it and you arent going to listen to reason.
 
Silosobi said:
Hey look I think one item is better than EVERYTHING else someone lacks they should def be moved.
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Told ya I was done. And no your still wrong.
Don't like it Make your own thread or shove up up your ass.

I don't know how I can make that anymore clear
 
You know all of the rules for the thread that were at the top that you deleted were there for a reason...You just kind of threw them out and that was pretty dumb.

Also Tarutao should really be #2 if he isn't.
 
Uzz got trolled hard for a month and in the space of a couple days he's done almost as well in return... I can't believe the rest of you guys are still reading this thread, let alone posting in it. I blame lack of Chillville.
 
Silosobi said:
yeah lets just leave out the vah back, its not the single most powerful item in the game, probably so much so that it outweighs all those minor wins. I certainly havnt won countless 6man/raid encounters because clicking vah made people heal and dps MORE THAN TWICE AS WELL AS THEY NORALLY DO

You are hopeless though, you made the list to put yourself on it and you arent going to listen to reason.
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This right here .. .. FOR REALLLLLL .. bring back chillville ... ( future link to common sense thread)

lol you mad bro?
 
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Your character is so bad it won't be top 5 material unless you make the thread yourself.

You're sad, bro.
 
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So the above post .. who am I suppose to move .. cuz other than 1 cleric being moved that I have already looked at twice and was waiting for Clerics to respond on.

I'm not touching JR vs Zorr till they both have 1 handers in.

Thanman VS Fidel needs to be looked at I will when I get time a Full Write up or someone posts it

Aishii you have listed as number 2 Vs me listed at #3 will look into this ..

Other than that looks like copy paste.
And yes I will look at all, thanks for not Being a troll :p

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Changes made:
Agreed Aishii moved to #2
Agreed I moved Eyate to #4

***REMINDER THIS IS NOT CHILLVILLE TROLLING CAN GET YOU FORUM BANNED***
 
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the point is, you already did touch them. adding people just because they are your friend hurts any credibility the thread has and will just get you trolled. jraul has less hp AND ac than zorr when both are using 1 handers, that one doesn't take rocket surgery to figure out. and thanman over fidel? come on. even you can't believe that one
 
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