Style - immunity to Fear, Charm, Mesmerization
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Draxx said:
As far as I understand you are not developer so talking about coding coming from you is just plain silly.
ok, can someone please tell me where did I say I needed anyones help with Throne room pulling tips Nwajj / Draxx I didnt and I don't. I also said nothing about paladins but if they do indeed have the same style and it doesn't work then:
a. Please change the wording
b. Make it so it actually does what it is suppose to.
Once again IMO monks should get short duration style that actually does what the description says it should for pulling purposes. If monks don't get it then no it wont break the class; no its not required for any of the content I have encountered, but it would make sense
Monance
Dalayan Adventurer
think bards also get an ummezzable stance.
But yeah. Change the information text on the style. I think nobody has a problem with said stances and/or racial abilities not working on certain events (would make stasis totally boring for example, and trivialize a buttload of other encounters) the problem is the "finding it out the hard way" and "always questioning yourself why a thing thats supposed to work doesnt work in the end" happens for almost every player sooner or later AND are just a pain in the ass.
The stance indeed works wonders on the other mez spells that are resistable, and its a great tool. Just change the text on the stance and its fine
PS: Dont turn this into a "u have no clue about pulling, this thread sucks balls" kinda thing. This is imho all about wrong text on a stance being FIXED and thats what its about, so calm down monkies
But yeah. Change the information text on the style. I think nobody has a problem with said stances and/or racial abilities not working on certain events (would make stasis totally boring for example, and trivialize a buttload of other encounters) the problem is the "finding it out the hard way" and "always questioning yourself why a thing thats supposed to work doesnt work in the end" happens for almost every player sooner or later AND are just a pain in the ass.
The stance indeed works wonders on the other mez spells that are resistable, and its a great tool. Just change the text on the stance and its fine
PS: Dont turn this into a "u have no clue about pulling, this thread sucks balls" kinda thing. This is imho all about wrong text on a stance being FIXED and thats what its about, so calm down monkies
Drotic said:
Saying that I'm not a developer and therefore an idiot is not a way to debunk my argument. I'm saying that this cannot be changed, and will not be changed simply because you can't pull throne room. The challenge of this pull is the fact that you get mezzed and can't resist it. Instead of casting Eternal Rapture, she could cast Archaic: Vapor Trance or Complacency, but since they are both resistable it takes the challenge out of the pull.
I can really tell you that this is the only pull in the game that mezzes on incoming. To change the stance trivializes the pull almost completely.
Draxx... I want to thank you for all of your helpful info on the brought up topic, which is:
Monk style -(10) Wall of Will 35 You become immune to Fear, Charm, Mesmerization and gain an increase in all resistances
does not do what is stated in its description.
There are two valid option:
a) change the text stating that there are exceptions
b) change the style so it does always work
Now if you would like to talk about throne room pull could you please take it somewhere else? Perhaps make your own thread?
Monk style -(10) Wall of Will 35 You become immune to Fear, Charm, Mesmerization and gain an increase in all resistances
does not do what is stated in its description.
There are two valid option:
a) change the text stating that there are exceptions
b) change the style so it does always work
Now if you would like to talk about throne room pull could you please take it somewhere else? Perhaps make your own thread?
Duma said:
Ask any dev, and they will back up my argument about the spell coding. Considering I asked a dev, and they told me that's the reason, it's kind of dumb that you'd dismiss me simply because I don't have a dev title. Because having that title makes you somehow smarter than someone without it? Hmm...
Also, drotic, if you're only suggesting that the text in the stance be changed, then your request is for a single, situational pull. What would you have the text be changed to? "You become immune fear, charm, mesmerization (Except relic mez because Pernerlia is the only mob in the game that casts this) and gain and increase in all resistances."
The stance is meant to resist RESISTABLE mez, not UNRESISTABLE mez. The nature of the spell is that it's unresistable, no matter what you do. Having an all-encompassing disclaimer in your stance message is pretty rediculous.
robopirateninja
Staff Emeritus
There's other stuff that casts relic mezz on you.
crunchy
*Web Developer and Fomelo Guru*
Draxx said:
Then what's the problem? Change the text to say "You become immune to resistable efar, charm, and mesmerization, and gain an increase in all resistances". ONE bloody word will eliminate a lot of confusion.
Draxx said:
To be fair, the way you phrased it does sound like you claim detailed knowledge of the spell coding system. They may very well have to be rewritten to make them resistable, but if you aren't yourself a developer, you don't really know how difficult or easy that would be. The fact that you asked a dev and he said the spells would have to be rewritten doesn't really mean much. It could mean as little as that it's not a big change but that someone has decreed no rewriting of spells for now. It could also mean 3 weeks of intensive coding and then 3 more for testing.
Regardless, no one is asking for major spell changes. People are just asking that the text either says really what it does, or that the effect really does what it says. Arguing about pulling or mobs, or ridiculing someone by suggesting he's asking for the text to include "except in the case of certain mobs" is just pointless and argumentative and suggests you're responding in passion to defend what you perceive as an attack on the game.
Cinn
Banned Jerk
Diamondine Gear + Vexed Choking Device + Resist Buffs + /s 10 + a wall + feign death key + someone to tag (optional) = Split Throne Room
in the rare event you get mezzed (and even mezzed + blinded), mash feign death key. If you are terrible, mash ethereal hotkey as well.
... profit.
Love,
Cinn.
in the rare event you get mezzed (and even mezzed + blinded), mash feign death key. If you are terrible, mash ethereal hotkey as well.
... profit.
Love,
Cinn.
Cinn
Banned Jerk
Tempus said:
Wow like, my post wasn't rude, cleared up what draxx was hinting at and gave information on what exactly to use (stance 10, which is what this thread is about, along with what gear and tricks to augment with it). I'm sorry if that wasn't on topic enough for you. I'll go edit in the line "imo the description on the stance is perfectly fine". I'm sorry that this turned into a "How to pull empress" thread, but it only did so because it is easily the most encountered mob with this ability. (which is on topic)
I'll evacuate this thread now I guess, as my input is obviously not what Tempus had in mind.
happy monking drotic.
LoxoscelesReclusa
Dalayan Beginner
imo niether the message nor the stance nor the spells should be changed. It's a live and learn experience in SoD. Giving any race/class immunity to spells that are intended to bypass the race bonus or class styles would really detract from the accomplishment of learning how to work around the encounter.