Relic: Til's Elemental Ward

diolas

diolas

Dalayan Beginner
I did a relic scroll turn in today, expecting either my Relic Nuke or the Relic pet. Either would have made me happy, to be honest with you. Instead, I got a different spell that I've never heard of; either on the forums or on the unofficial spell page.

So I'm thinking, "Ok, calm down. It's a relic, so it can't be that bad... right?". Wrong. This spell is terrible.

Essentially, it's an upgrade to that level 54 spell: Elemental cloak. It gives +55 to both FR and CR. It is self only and does not stack with SoS (this is the druid version that is 'not' relic, gives +50 to both saves and also happens to hit everyone in the group/raid).

So maybe I'm missing something, or maybe I'm not. Someone please enlighten this discouraged mage as to how this got added to the mage relic list and not simply added as normal spell? I doubt I'd have even bought it if it were 61+ as I nearly never use the 54 counterpart.
 
It's +250 mana and uses a buffslot you would already be using on raids (SoS). It's the mage equivalent of High Priest's Bulwark -- not amazing useful, but a nice bonus.

Also, as an aside, people REALLY need to stop using sod.camongrel.de. It's old. Really. Old. 6 months old. There's better ways to look at these things (like the parser that Kobex made for SoD).
 
High Priests Bulwark stacks with just about everything and has a nice bonus of FT on top of it. Honestly, I'd rather have the ability to cast SoS on my mage over this self only version. It's poo, plain and simple.
 
Did you just read over the part where I said it's +250 to mana? It gives you 250 to your mana pool. +250. To mana. Ok.
 
It also stacks with druid resist buffs (or is supposed to at any rate).
 
rab said:
Did you just read over the part where I said it's +250 to mana? It gives you 250 to your mana pool. +250. To mana. Ok.
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That isn't exactly relic material all on it's own. The bonus to resists stacking with dru resists is pretty sexy though.
 
Wiz said:
It also stacks with druid resist buffs (or is supposed to at any rate).
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None of the mage/wiz line do. I still don't think it's relic material with the + to mana. Due to agro restrictions I'm almost never oom these days anyways. How about adding a -%agro mod to it? That would be sexy.
 
diolas said:
Wiz said:
It also stacks with druid resist buffs (or is supposed to at any rate).
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None of the mage/wiz line do. I still don't think it's relic material with the + to mana. Due to agro restrictions I'm almost never oom these days anyways. How about adding a -%agro mod to it? That would be sexy.
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mages don't have any -aggro mods afaik. I think this is a good idea.

KAS
 
Kasreyn said:
diolas said:
Wiz said:
It also stacks with druid resist buffs (or is supposed to at any rate).
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None of the mage/wiz line do. I still don't think it's relic material with the + to mana. Due to agro restrictions I'm almost never oom these days anyways. How about adding a -%agro mod to it? That would be sexy.
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mages don't have any -aggro mods afaik. I think this is a good idea.

KAS
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Er, why would that be a good idea to give a class a relic spell that does something not at all like anything else the class does? That doesn't strike me as a great plan.
 
diolas said:
Wiz said:
It also stacks with druid resist buffs (or is supposed to at any rate).
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None of the mage/wiz line do. I still don't think it's relic material with the + to mana. Due to agro restrictions I'm almost never oom these days anyways. How about adding a -%agro mod to it? That would be sexy.
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How about no.
 
Thinkmeats said:
Er, why would that be a good idea to give a class a relic spell that does something not at all like anything else the class does? That doesn't strike me as a great plan.
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Because mages are the 'only' dps class without a method of reducing agro.
 
That isn't an argument that they should get a relic aggro reducer. Relics are continuations of previous spell lines, not entirely new things--besides, if mages really needed aggro reduction, they'd get something usable before "level 65 relic spell", otherwise a big part of the mage population would be screwed.
 
This particular spell only gives the bonus to mana for the relic version. Does that mean the mana should be removed because none of the previous spells in the line have it?
 
No, the non-relic highest level one gives mana as well. Relic just gives more.

And also, some relics are completely new. Relic: Melody of the Shield doesn't have anything before it that's like it. Or any other spell quite like it, for that matter. <3 <3
 
elemental cloak at 54 doesn't appear to have any mana to it according to the spell parser.. and it has the mana from the relic in the parser
 
Stackable +55 CR/FR and +250 mana is nothing to scoff at. It may not be as useful as say, the pet or the nuke, but it's still a good relic to have.
 
Momatose said:
elemental cloak at 54 doesn't appear to have any mana to it according to the spell parser.. and it has the mana from the relic in the parser
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Elemental Cloak isn't the highest non-relic. I don't have my parser on hand, but there's one that's in the 60s.
 
diolas said:
This particular spell only gives the bonus to mana for the relic version. Does that mean the mana should be removed because none of the previous spells in the line have it?
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The mana could reasonably be argued not to be the primary function of the spell. Aggro reduction? Not so much. If I'm wrong, I look forward to an enchanter relic that makes modrods, I expect it will be very delicious to my face.
 
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