PP Tomes.

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Snake

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Some people stop playing exp groups because they dont need exp at all, and there arent enough pp in grouping, compared to just farming them selfs.

So my suggestion is that its possible to buy a tome, and when you finish it, some good amount of PP will be placed in your bank.

I hope that this would get some of the really nice chars back in the exp game.
 
Or maybe instead of raw plat, charm credit or something like that might be more plausible, but I'm not certain about this concept as a whole. It would be nice, as I'm out of uses for Exp for the forseeable future and I much prefer grouping over farming.
 
I can't say this is the best solution to needing xp, but I like it because for some unknown reason it is a horrible problem for people to be able to get money in groups. Farming has always been substantially more profitable, and in the cases of hhk and first ruins where a zone became worthwhile for both xp and money the money got nerfed severely.
 
It also might just free up some of the quest targets around, that are otherwise pp farmed targets :)
 
It would have to be a substantial amount of pp for it to be actualy worth it as a completed tome doesn't happen over night

Thus your better off just trying to group for exp if you aren't getting money and farm later
 
Come on this is the best idea ever, back it up! Get those phat chars back in to the exp game :)

Finish 1 pp tome of 100 aa's could give 100k? To much, not worth it?
 
I would be for it if it gave charm credit and not raw pp. Actually I think its a very sweet idea. I hate farming and auctioning. If I could just hang out with my friends and do some fun xp zones, instead of grinding it out at (insert current version of the plagueland trees) with some random toons in for leech xp/breaking camp. While I could still do the boring farm pp/gear, I could also just xp or a combination of both.
 
thats like 50percent of a current tome which can be done in 5 days if your a serious grinder. slighty to much pp.
Also a lot of those uber toons are on hold while their owners are leveling / gearing alts.
At least your putting ideas up. I support that.
 
I like the idea of charm credit, since it wont create massive plat influxes in the economy. Its going to be a fine line to walk between making it the chosen alternative to plat/item farming, and not worth the trouble, for those that dont have max tomes atleast. I dont know where the magic number will lie.
 
Percentage wise, not a lot of people are max tomes. I think that the people who are can wait a little longer for Ikisith tomes, or go farm Emberflow tomes if they need an exp. sink. I think banding with an alt is also a good way to use exp. I just don't see a big rush to create new tomes if there are already some in the works.
 
Not a bad idea tbh...or make a tome that does nothing at all til you finish it, then converts XP to plat or charm credit at a set ratio, like 1 plat per 1k xp or something?

Also, WTB an xp modifier for tomes based on unspent spec points, while we're at it!
 
Nodnal said:
Percentage wise, not a lot of people are max tomes. I think that the people who are can wait a little longer for Ikisith tomes, or go farm Emberflow tomes if they need an exp. sink. I think banding with an alt is also a good way to use exp. I just don't see a big rush to create new tomes if there are already some in the works.
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You say "go farm emberflow tomes" like anybody and their mom can walk in holding hands and actually acquire one of those tomes, let alone one that is actually useful to them specifically. The mobs dropping these things drop 1 thing, an item OR a tome. And then these mobs require nearly as much gear as you have Felyn. I'm aware there is the whole "token" system or whatever to get ONE tome, but even that takes forever.
 
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You say "go farm emberflow tomes" like anybody and their mom can walk in holding hands and actually acquire one of those tomes, let alone one that is actually useful to them specifically. The mobs dropping these things drop 1 thing, an item OR a tome. And then these mobs require nearly as much gear as you have Felyn. I'm aware there is the whole "token" system or whatever to get ONE tome, but even that takes forever.
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Pretty much going to have to actually echo this. On a cost/benefit ratio, emberflow tomes for most just simply don't pay off, except for maybe one of them, and that's debatable. I'm happier with just seeing my already maxed aa's increase by another one than go farm one personally, and I already have the gear to do it.

Tokens last I heard were not really finishable for a particular reason.

Will I go and do it eventually? Yes, but I'm going to have to be really fucking bored before that ever happens.
 
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That was a total derail though....

I support the idea of a tome that when completed adds some amount of plat to your charm fund. (Or when the completed tome is turned into the charm vendor). Only thing in question though.... do we have to buy this tome? That seems entirely counter-productive unless you get like a 500% return on your investment (1k tome for a 5k charm credit?). As for the amount of AAs for this, I wouldn't even begin to calculate that out. And I doubt there will ever be a number agreed upon, so I see this idea going down in flames.

But I support it, it's one of the best ideas in a while.
 
I honestly don't see the point. Any high-xp value mobs one would farm for xp can easily be supplanted by high plat mobs of equal or lesser challenge and a greater return than the suggested 1kxp per plat.

This simply seems redundant when you can already advance your platinum levels by other more viable means.

Converting this to a charm value is the same exact thing except it skips the step of actually saving before buying the charm.

Why should staff follow through with this when in both instances it counteracts the ideal of decreasing the amount of platinum in the economy? Generating platinum directly goes against this and generating charm credit indirectly goes against this.
 
Because people enjoy the MMO portion of the MMORPG we play? They don't want the furtherment of their character to be limited to spending mindless hours killing mobXX for 1000 hours. They want to actually be able to group for money, something that is seemingly frowned upon as detrimental.

Coincidentally, the few places that are around that you can farm mobXX for hours to gain your charm money, get nerfed. So, are we not to group or farm? And simply hope it appears in our banks magically one morning, like some well deserved gift from Santa Troll? If we cannot have it one way, and then we cannot have it another way, there must become a third, at least seemingly plausible way.
 
iaeolan said:
Why should staff follow through with this when in both instances it counteracts the ideal of decreasing the amount of platinum in the economy? Generating platinum directly goes against this and generating charm credit indirectly goes against this.
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Why? Because i enjoy grouping for exp a lot more than I enjoy farming plat by my self. I don't even think it needs to be comparable to the amount you can get duo farming, but something would be nice, especially since I don't have anything to do with my Exp except get more useless AAs.
 
Ohh hell yeah!

I can't wait to get my 5th tome done so I can work on those 15 aa's worth of wisdom on my wiz. Once I'm done with that it's going to go down hill really fast.

I fully endorse this idea as long as it would be a charm credit fund and not just chiching deposit the pp in the bank.

Being an almost 5 tome max aa toon I can tell you that I like this idea. Having the ability to still group for hours on end and make at least a little coin instead of practically no coin for the time invested. Expecially when your working towards the very end charm. If you think you can group your way to that much coin your crazy. Thats why this idea apeals to me so much. Instead of becomming a hermit I would still be able to make a decent ammount of plats while grouping instead of doing it Grizzly Adams style.

This charm fund tome idea gets two thumbs up for sure. :)
 
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If there was a way I could get as much plat or charm credit xping as there was farming, I would never in my life farm again. Not quite sure how you balance the 1-2k any decently geared toon can make farming for a whole group of people getting the same amount, however.
 
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