Why do you all have to keep being asses to those who disagree? This is suppossed to be a thread to collect input from users. Not everyone likes the change. Do you feel better insulting everyone who doesn't share your views?
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Why do you all have to keep being asses to those who disagree? This is suppossed to be a thread to collect input from users. Not everyone likes the change. Do you feel better insulting everyone who doesn't share your views?
Slaariel
*The Only Real Life Girl Dev*
this thread is for me to talk in all caps!!!!! LIKE THIS! but really the mop is actually a lot nicer than it was before AND it looks better.. if people quit over this i mean ok it's a free country i guess but i think they are selling themselves and the game short... if you quit over having to log into the wiki i don't have an answer for that sorry =(
phroggonalog
Dalayan Master
Ragequit subscription cancellations are either A) trolls who never had a subscription in the first place B) trolls who have a subscription but who aren't actually canceling said subscription or C) people who are raging and canceling a subscription over a minor change to the game. You can go fuck yourself if you match any of these scenarios.
darksabbath
Dalayan Master
A tad vulgar perhaps, but fairly on target imo.
jew_nose_it
Dalayan Master
If you can't get through Mop safely I wouldn't want to group with you anyways.
Quit being dramatic and ridiculous. Seriously. I finally got "portal sump" a few days ago after maybe 30 trips scott-free, and that was only because I was completely not paying attention. To say you get killed every single time you go through it you have to be either 1: trying to get killed or 2: lying. (or a total troll I guess) I mean seriously, maybe your files are messed up and it zones you to Thaz or something? Can you not see the guys walking around? There aren't really any more corpses in there than there were pre-change that I've noticed.
i didn't like the mop change...untill i started using my brain to get through it. so lets see, it's skill oriented (and not much skill is required), and not just random screw you over oriented. the new mop is a win, go find a game the requires no thought process if you can't handle such a major super crazy omg over the top but not really change. quitting over this change? go buy some thicker skin on ebay please.
Nuvian
Nuvian
Animand
Dalayan Elder
Bridger seems to be physical incapable of the simple manual dexterity required to dodge the mobs in the MoP. Yes, I know the vast majority of us don't have this problem. It sounds like he has some disability that prevents him from doing this, like being unable to push more than 1-2 buttons at a time, or playing with only 2 fingers. None of this would prevent him from typing grammatically posts and seeming otherwise normal. So let's all cut him a break on this.
That said, it's difficult to condone re-re-balancing the MoP over the physical limitations of a tiny fraction of the playerbase. The simplest method of solving this would be to find a way to help Bridger reliably make it through the MoP in it current state. So, uh, chop chop, people.
That said, it's difficult to condone re-re-balancing the MoP over the physical limitations of a tiny fraction of the playerbase. The simplest method of solving this would be to find a way to help Bridger reliably make it through the MoP in it current state. So, uh, chop chop, people.
darksabbath
Dalayan Master
Seriously.. so much drama over a change to the MoP? Really? It's really not that hard. Instead of depending on the RNG gods, it now requires some skill to make it through. If you quit because of that, it is just sad.
I consider the new MoP to be SoD's version of Darwinism.
I consider the new MoP to be SoD's version of Darwinism.
Otcho
Dalayan Pious Diety
This is a huge spoiler: If you find a rift you will get akhevan illusion or run speed. If you get illusion you will not die ever.
Stop fucking crying, you do not need to die you do not even need to avoid mobs, you are just bad and every single death you have caused was preventable by being at least sub human intelligence and reading the line that says "If you should find a rift you may find your journey easier" or whatever, hit autotarget, find rift, free ride. There is nothing hard to this and the mansion is easier, better and all of that jazz. If you are dying you are just bad at this game, its not even remotely hard.
THE ONLY excuse you can possibly have is that you cannot tell where rifts exactly are without target rings, even then you can ballpark it by the general direction and knowledge of where they generally are.
Stop fucking crying, you do not need to die you do not even need to avoid mobs, you are just bad and every single death you have caused was preventable by being at least sub human intelligence and reading the line that says "If you should find a rift you may find your journey easier" or whatever, hit autotarget, find rift, free ride. There is nothing hard to this and the mansion is easier, better and all of that jazz. If you are dying you are just bad at this game, its not even remotely hard.
THE ONLY excuse you can possibly have is that you cannot tell where rifts exactly are without target rings, even then you can ballpark it by the general direction and knowledge of where they generally are.
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Slagar
Dalayan Adventurer
Also, if the new MoP is really that onerous for you, (and I suppose it does make sense that someone could have a physical disability that would make it pretty difficult,) then change what you're doing in the game so that you don't need to use it as much. I think Bridger was saying before that he has a high tier character that used the MoP like ten times a day. I can't really imagine why anyone would have to use the MoP that often at any tier, but really, there are a lot of gate necks that are really easy to get. Between vale, sadri, athica, newport, vah, rust and stormkeep/DHK; all of which are trivial past about tier 4, where are you really needing to MoP to? Is thurgadin really that important? Just bind there.
Otcho
Dalayan Pious Diety
Its too hard to play alts on raids now.
Tarutao
Staff Emeritus
For the record, the guy claiming to cancel his gold subscription was telling the truth. We're sorry to lose his donation, but given that he donated for a couple months, I'd say we're still ahead overall. Maybe in a month or two, he'll have taken the time to understand why the current (and hopefully temporary) wiki logins are (and hopefully soon just "were") necessary and join the dark side of the server that likes the MoP changes.
We'll just wait patiently for Bridger and him to join the dark side.
We'll just wait patiently for Bridger and him to join the dark side.
My god... quitting the game because you have to log into the wiki and/or because MoP has changed.. just boggles the mind
The changes are really really minor and for the better in both cases. Seriously.. I'm quitting because I now have to log in to the wiki... I'm at a loss for words, well actually I'm not, but it's nicer if I don't say it.
With the mansion of portals, I don't understand how you can die there now. Before the changes you could get hit randomly for a double nuke and die, or you could get debuffed, and that was annoying.. but now as long as you don't run into slow moving, literally snail pace mobs... you'll be fine, no more debuffs, no more random deaths.. the change is that you now have to pay attention for 20 seconds and look where you are going... and doing this lets you avoid the random shit that used to happen. I would think you would be thankful..
The drama over this is fucking ridiculous...
The changes are really really minor and for the better in both cases. Seriously.. I'm quitting because I now have to log in to the wiki... I'm at a loss for words, well actually I'm not, but it's nicer if I don't say it.
With the mansion of portals, I don't understand how you can die there now. Before the changes you could get hit randomly for a double nuke and die, or you could get debuffed, and that was annoying.. but now as long as you don't run into slow moving, literally snail pace mobs... you'll be fine, no more debuffs, no more random deaths.. the change is that you now have to pay attention for 20 seconds and look where you are going... and doing this lets you avoid the random shit that used to happen. I would think you would be thankful..
The drama over this is fucking ridiculous...
The guy who quit did NOT quit over the Wiki. He quit because of the MoP and by the way he also did not like what had happened to the Wiki. (Did anyone?)
This is also NOT an issue of intelligence or concentration. After I retired from work I obtained a first class Maths degree. I play Bridge at close to international standard. Both attest to the fact I have more than sufficient abilities in both these areas.
If there is any drama here it is not of my making. I am attempting to explain calmly, rationally and without resort to any personal abuse, why the introduction of a requirement for manual dexterity into the MoP of all zones has caused me to cease playing.
The fact that I am still here should confirm that I am not the sensitive type. (I would be long gone if I was) and that I have a genuine desire for rationality to prevail so that I can play again. After all if the objective is to remove randomness from the MoP, the solution is obvious. Just remove the randomness. The introduction of the mobs is not a requirement to achieve this objective.
This is also NOT an issue of intelligence or concentration. After I retired from work I obtained a first class Maths degree. I play Bridge at close to international standard. Both attest to the fact I have more than sufficient abilities in both these areas.
If there is any drama here it is not of my making. I am attempting to explain calmly, rationally and without resort to any personal abuse, why the introduction of a requirement for manual dexterity into the MoP of all zones has caused me to cease playing.
The fact that I am still here should confirm that I am not the sensitive type. (I would be long gone if I was) and that I have a genuine desire for rationality to prevail so that I can play again. After all if the objective is to remove randomness from the MoP, the solution is obvious. Just remove the randomness. The introduction of the mobs is not a requirement to achieve this objective.
The guy quit over the Wiki AND the MoP changes... you quit over the MoP changes.
Personally, it doesn't matter to me if the MoP goes back the way it was, or it stays as it is now. It's just not a game breaker. The changes are really insignificant.. the game is so much more than that.
To post that you're quitting over it is ridiculous.. whether or not you calmly posted you're quitting over it is irrelevant as is the fact that you have an advanced math degree.
My point is that posting you're quitting over something so minor is asking for drama. You can argue that putting the mobs in the MoP is not necessary to take the randomness out of it, and that is fine... but at the same time you can argue the other side that instant ports to every zone should come at a cost.
It's not, you disliking the the changes, that I object to, that's fine, it's the fact that you are quitting over it I find objectionable.. and that's what I think is ridiculous
Personally, it doesn't matter to me if the MoP goes back the way it was, or it stays as it is now. It's just not a game breaker. The changes are really insignificant.. the game is so much more than that.
To post that you're quitting over it is ridiculous.. whether or not you calmly posted you're quitting over it is irrelevant as is the fact that you have an advanced math degree.
My point is that posting you're quitting over something so minor is asking for drama. You can argue that putting the mobs in the MoP is not necessary to take the randomness out of it, and that is fine... but at the same time you can argue the other side that instant ports to every zone should come at a cost.
It's not, you disliking the the changes, that I object to, that's fine, it's the fact that you are quitting over it I find objectionable.. and that's what I think is ridiculous
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