Damage shield in PVP

Yona

Yona

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I don't know if this has already been suggested or even put in. High level damage shield are pretty insane in pvp versus dps classes. Say : a druid with 65 ds , a rogue with 4 hits every 1 or 2 seconds would take more dmg than the druid , with druid not even casting any other dmg spells. Is it possible to see the DS nerfed a bit in pvp if it's not been alredy?

TIA !!! :hug:
 
I dont think this is a real problem. To be honest, druids dont really have that many strategies in pvp. They can either kite, or let a melees that dual wield do damage to them while they sit there healing themselves and letting the melee's kill themselves. Most melees can find ways around this, such as rogues only backstabbing, or monks/warriors using 2handed weapons. Its not that big of a deal, and there are ways around it. PVP on live wasnt completely balanced, just like it probably wont be completely balanced on SOD.

Jinxat.
 
Yona said:
I don't know if this has already been suggested or even put in. High level damage shield are pretty insane in pvp versus dps classes. Say : a druid with 65 ds , a rogue with 4 hits every 1 or 2 seconds would take more dmg than the druid , with druid not even casting any other dmg spells. Is it possible to see the DS nerfed a bit in pvp if it's not been alredy?

TIA !!! :hug:
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In one word: NO

Don't touch my precious DS! :finger: :finger:

ps. on live i used to just corner myself to prevent rogues from only backstabbing :p
 
I think a druid medding will have enough mana regen to recover the hps lost due to a rogue "only" backstabing him.

Also, if spells and melee is tweaked, I think this should be too :).
 
Bernat said:
I think a rogue medding will have enough mana regen to recover the hps lost due to a rogue "only" backstabing him.

Also, if spells and melee is tweaked, I think this should be too :).
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a rogue medding? what have you been sniffing lately? :p once a rogue starts stabbing a druid there is no way back :p

ps. yona, i believe the latest patch msg on the website say that melee dmg has been increased in pvp now. so maybe you will outdo my ds :)
i which case i simple heal myself an extra time :p
 
are you kidding me remove ds ??? are we making this a pvp server? and if you cant figure out how to get around a ds you shouldnt be trying to pvp because you are a joke. does any one else realize this is NOT a pvp server. And why on earth is there a ten lvl cap ???? in a rp part of view if you go pvp you are a murder. MURDER's dont get a limit on who can kill them.

can some one answer why all the sudden there is all this pvp hype??? i just dont get the whole thing of going pvp and being cool because i might on occasion find some one to kill ? just duel them. Or is this server going pvp. with all this balancing going on for pvp thats the only thing i can think of is that SoD is going to be a pvp server. i just hate seeing wiz waste his time tweaking things for pvp when there could be more quests zones and other worth while things. i would love to see a pvp server but untill there is one stop whining or figure out your self how to get around your issue's jinaxt has given great ideas. and zodium your comment is a joke :finger: it just makes me think that you play a duel wielding character
 
Murdering lowbies would be ok if you got a negative faction hit if killing them in their city (in case they didn't engage). Or maybe having guards help them (again if they didn't engage).


As for DS, my opinion is that reducing them to one half or one third would be ok. But I haven't PvP'ed much, so my opinion isn't that worthy :).
 
Bernat said:
Murdering lowbies would be ok if you got a negative faction hit if killing them in their city (in case they didn't engage). Or maybe having guards help them (again if they didn't engage).
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Both good ideas.
 
malathoos said:
are you kidding me remove ds ??? are we making this a pvp server? and if you cant figure out how to get around a ds you shouldnt be trying to pvp because you are a joke. does any one else realize this is NOT a pvp server. And why on earth is there a ten lvl cap ???? in a rp part of view if you go pvp you are a murder. MURDER's dont get a limit on who can kill them.

can some one answer why all the sudden there is all this pvp hype??? i just dont get the whole thing of going pvp and being cool because i might on occasion find some one to kill ? just duel them. Or is this server going pvp. with all this balancing going on for pvp thats the only thing i can think of is that SoD is going to be a pvp server. i just hate seeing wiz waste his time tweaking things for pvp when there could be more quests zones and other worth while things. i would love to see a pvp server but untill there is one stop whining or figure out your self how to get around your issue's jinaxt has given great ideas. and zodium your comment is a joke :finger: it just makes me think that you play a duel wielding character
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In the future I would suggest actually paying attention to an admin's comment before calling it a "joke" - considering your reaction is completely off the wall... he didn't say DS should be removed. He said it shouldn't impact PVP - it would still remain the same in PVE going by his post.
 
malathoos said:
are you kidding me remove ds ??? are we making this a pvp server? and if you cant figure out how to get around a ds you shouldnt be trying to pvp because you are a joke. does any one else realize this is NOT a pvp server. And why on earth is there a ten lvl cap ???? in a rp part of view if you go pvp you are a murder. MURDER's dont get a limit on who can kill them.

can some one answer why all the sudden there is all this pvp hype??? i just dont get the whole thing of going pvp and being cool because i might on occasion find some one to kill ? just duel them. Or is this server going pvp. with all this balancing going on for pvp thats the only thing i can think of is that SoD is going to be a pvp server. i just hate seeing wiz waste his time tweaking things for pvp when there could be more quests zones and other worth while things. i would love to see a pvp server but untill there is one stop whining or figure out your self how to get around your issue's jinaxt has given great ideas. and zodium your comment is a joke :finger: it just makes me think that you play a duel wielding character
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Hey, you waste of space, how about reading and comprehending a post before you go on a big, offensive rant?
 
A good way to get around DS's in the live pvp servers was disspell. Which brings me to my point, can we maybe implement disspells have pumice sold at vendors etc.? This would remove DS any benefical buffs making caster and melee fights more even, while also adding an extra tactical feature as well. tactical feature in the way you aline your buffs as a caster and melee.

PS ~ kick his arse zodium! woot woot
 
malathoos said:
are you kidding me remove ds ??? are we making this a pvp server? and if you cant figure out how to get around a ds you shouldnt be trying to pvp because you are a joke. does any one else realize this is NOT a pvp server. And why on earth is there a ten lvl cap ???? in a rp part of view if you go pvp you are a murder. MURDER's dont get a limit on who can kill them.

can some one answer why all the sudden there is all this pvp hype??? i just dont get the whole thing of going pvp and being cool because i might on occasion find some one to kill ? just duel them. Or is this server going pvp. with all this balancing going on for pvp thats the only thing i can think of is that SoD is going to be a pvp server. i just hate seeing wiz waste his time tweaking things for pvp when there could be more quests zones and other worth while things. i would love to see a pvp server but untill there is one stop whining or figure out your self how to get around your issue's jinaxt has given great ideas. and zodium your comment is a joke :finger: it just makes me think that you play a duel wielding character
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First of all, learn to read. Secondly, be civil.

Thirdly, this suspension ain't no joke, and you can bet money on that.
 
I though he read it correctly. Zodium said in his post:

DS should honestly be outright removed from PVP as it makes dualwielding worthless.

How do you get rid of the DS just for PvP?
 
To be completely honest, Yona makes a great point.

I would suggest that DS only does half.. or maybe even a quarter damage in PvP.. Bards and Rogues get anally raped if they try to melee on a DS.
 
Kaledorm said:
I though he read it correctly. Zodium said in his post:

DS should honestly be outright removed from PVP as it makes dualwielding worthless.

How do you get rid of the DS just for PvP?
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Very easily :?
 
If I am not mistaken than bards have an annul song, and rogues can backstab for insane amounts well over 1k damage per hit. Now yes, I know that rogues abilitiy is only situational, and that bards are limited as well, but bards, if played well, have more utility than any other class in pvp. They can definately get around a damage shield. Drain mana? Dot kite? I realize that these things would take a long time, but damage shields shouldnt really effect bards that much. I am not completely against a lower in DS's in pvp, its just I dont see the point really. Most if not all classes have ways to avoid it. It is part of the game, and part of the classes utility. If people play smart than they can easily avoid the problem.

By the way, most often than not, melees will lose to casters in pvp, unless said melees have good resists and can resist the majority of the casters spells. Thats just how it is. Unless of course it is an inside zone. Anyways bumping damage shields down a bit or keeping them the same wouldnt really effect most of the people anyways, since a very small percentage of the population is pvp.

Jinxat.
 
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