Cmal 4-1,4-2

a necro could do 4-1 without a problem.


4-2 no tho
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have you beaten 4-2?

I would wager that a necro decked to the hilt (terate / perkins calibur gear) could be in a successful 4-2 group

and yes, i've done 4-2.. multiple times
 
no im pretty sure (as a necro) (and having seen and participated in both 4-1 and 4-2) that a necro, while able to do much more damage over a long period of time, cannot burn down adds fast enough and cannot burn down the named fast enough, so unless you bring in some FT20 10k mana healers its gonna be really hard for a necro, even an 8k mana one, to even come close to cmal 4

without getting into specifics there are certain phases of both fights where its important to kill something extremely quickly which is seriously impossible for a necro
 
We did 4.1 last night with Paxx and it wasn't hard at all tbh. 4.1 doesn't need as much burning since it was changed (like 5 months ago).
 
Way to go steel. Thats all i have to say.

Freggin nazis

EDIT: Not steel, but every other close-minded crap head that refuses to give others a chance.
 
Keep in mind though, that's 4.1. 4.2 is a very very different issue. I've never doubted you can swap in and out on 1.
 
Eldorath said:
We did 4.1 last night with Paxx and it wasn't hard at all tbh. 4.1 doesn't need as much burning since it was changed (like 5 months ago).
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oh it got changed well im wrong but no way on 4.2 for a necro
 
Homo's idea was awesome. Dunno how you'll implement that, but i have faith that eventually it can happen.

but yeah, i spent.... prollly a few days worth of hours, (as in, maybe 70+ hours) getting CMal down. I left SoD before 4.2 ever got beaten by steelcrew, but i don't think chanters even had a place in 4.2.

I'm totally sure that you could do cmal4.1 with non-traditional class set ups. i've seen it done with finstar, months and months ago. Its just that... certain things in there make individual classes so much more powerful than others. Tough for knights to keep solid aggro when they've been mana-tapped...

but yeah, cinn said it in a really blunt way that obv antagonized xeld... but he's right.

the reason i did cmal for the past 15 times i did it was to get stuff for people other than myself. If I could only do cmal for the slight chance that the one of the 15 pieces that dropped would go to me... i'd rather spend my time doing something else.
 
The original question here still was not answered. What flags do you need to loot from 4.1 and 4.2? OR do you need to be in group?
 
I heard a rumor from Exodus that people in 4-1 (even those that did the encounter) couldn't loot anything unless they'd killed Summoner before. That's just through the grapevine though . . . :tinfoil:
 
We haven't yet had anyone loot anything that wasn't in group, but before I try raiding one I want to know if its worth my effort!
 
Wharhogg said:
We haven't yet had anyone loot anything that wasn't in group, but before I try raiding one I want to know if its worth my effort!
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Devanos wasnt able to loot Ysthar Battle Finery, being in raid, after killing all the shit before Cmal 4.1 and also getting Cmal 4.1 Keyed. This its what he told me...he can confirm this
 
Bravengel said:
Devanos wasnt able to loot Ysthar Battle Finery, being in raid, after killing all the shit before Cmal 4.1 and also getting Cmal 4.1 Keyed. This its what he told me...he can confirm this
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Same with legan he tried to loot it also and he was in the same raid
 
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