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mjcy said:
Would love to join you all 21 ranger and 21 paly. I am available after 8pm Wednesday pac time.
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You have ensured that we will have enough to do this raid. Ok guys this is how its going down unless someone else has a better idea

Group 1
Draknor 25 War
Drawde 24 Clr
Mjcy's 21 Pally
Mjcy's 21 Ranger
Marmee 23 Clr

Group 2
Nabal 25 Sham
Garisons's 22 Wizard
19 Druid
19 Rng

It would be great if Drawde and whoever is on at the time with him joined up in Miel for some leveling as soon as possible. Stay close, because if we're on before midnight and want to strike at spectre for any reason we'll need you close.

Kiren I'd like to hear your input for healing strategies, as I'm not sure if we should have Drawde taking over most of the healing with Marmee standing by, or if we should have them alternate.

I'm mostly keeping Mcjy's chars on the same group so that he can monitor them better, as I would imagine having them in seperate groups makes things more complicated.

I will begin to pull to coast but if you see me getting summoned way too much, I'm going to need to have my group move forward enough to be in healing range. Melee folks, let me work up some aggro for about ten seconds or so before jumping in. Get familiar with the concept of attack styles if you aren't already. I will be wanting the other melee fighters to stay in defensive mode while I attack agressively. As the fight goes on, I'm going to first switch to sheild style, then switch to defensive. When I switch to defensive, I'm going to die soon, and I'll need the secondary tank ready to taunt and switch to normal mode. If I understand correctly Rampage is a short period where every attack will be countered and therefore it would be wise to turn off all attacks, as continuing them would simply result in being being blocked and countered. What this means is that we need to keep the main raid channel completely clear save for important messages such as tanks needing heals, orders to halt attacks, and emergency announcements. Save the spell casting chatter and hobutton macros for the chatter channel. When the mob hits about 70% I want the pure casters to do their thing, start nuking him and pray he doesn't resist. When you begin to nuke stay close to group 1 so that in case he aggroes you I can quickly jump in and taunt him mercilessly. DO NOT RUN. This is basic stuff but it needs to be mentioned.

As for Nabal, you said you would be charming a puma when the fight starts. I'll leave it up to you and Azmat to make sure it doesn't get out of control. Azmat, if you can participate in raid, you'll be in group 1, though I'm sure you've figured that out by now. I'm not sure when the best time to slow is, so I'm depending on your call for that as well. Druids, you will be my oh shit healers and if things are looking good you can try nuking, though I'm pretty sure the 19 druid is just gonna get resisted so stick to healing.

Please, if you possibly can, join drawde in miel for some leveling. One or two levels will make one hell of a difference. If you can't, then your presence is still greatly appreciated, no, NEEDED at the raid.

Here are some alternate structures in the unlikely case we get more people in this thread:
  • -First additional War or Paly over 21 that joins will be sent to group 1 unless Azmat is able to fight
    -Second War of Paly to join 21 or over will replace Mcjy's Ranger as the OST unless they are higher than his Pal, in which case they will become the ST. Mcjy, if you think this will make it too complicated to manage both your characters let me know so we can work out something else in advance, otherwise we will move you to group 2 to become an off tank.
    -Bard will take last spot in group one if it is open, otherwise he/she will replace Mcjy's ranger like worked out above.
    -Any additional pure caster will be sent to group 2
    -An SK 21 or above will apply just like bard
    -An additional cleric can be put into group one if we haven't already stuck a tank in there
    -a monk will join group 2 and be the puller as long as his lvl isn't too low. [/list:u]

    If any other class not mentioned is interested, post and we'll see what we can work out.

    And also, anyone with some input tell me before 11:30 pm est. Which is going to be the cut off point for additional strategies or raid members. We do this to make sure everyone knows what they're doing. We might be grabbing other folks who post after that if we have some AWOL's, but that's it. I'm going to talk to midget mage to discuss the raind channel protocols.

    Thanks again everyone, and keep checking this thread!

    Edit: After reading the SoD wiki entry which I had posted, I realized it wasn't very useful and seems outdated. So if you have questions about styles, PM me
 
Your Tactics sound good, one question.

Is the Take it Spectral Hunter spawn in a area with wanders? hense why we haev to pull him to coast line.

Important thing about Paladins. Any Paladin over 22 has a Spell Called Harmonic Residence. its a Group Heal over Time spell. VERY VERY NICE. If we have 2 paladins 22 and over, one should be in each group, spaming this spell.

As to slows, Slow and Debuff can cause nasty aggro, so i will be waiting most lkily for you to biuld some aggro before landing it. Azmat if you can't help with Hunter, will sit near Nabal when the atack happens. If charm breaks on puma its going to fly right at Nabal so Azmat will have ot catch it.

I dont know now if we will have the Ranger and Druid, I told him about how things would go down and he wasn't sure. He said he was goign to try to level some today, I dont know if the server are back up while I type this so not sure how much level he will get in.

About Rampage. I dont know if he does have it.. It was just ian in case. Usealy last about 10 sec or so, you will see the message

The Spectral Hunter begins to Rampage

This will be followed by everyone Getting HAMMER hard with Riposte. This is were everyone should Shut off thier Attack and just like the jerk finish his rampageing and attacks.

If the Hunter Flurrys its differnt. Flurry is when the mob goes for 2-4 attacks to 4-8 attacks. If the Hunter has Flurry we need to kick the healing into over drive as the MT can drop very very fast under that assult.

As to the healers, I would say alternate healing. Like 4 sec or so, if he is hitting hard and fast. First healer announces thier casting.. the second healer then counts to 4, 1 1000, 2 1000, 3 1000, 4 1000, then announce casting as they start to cast. This is the signal for the first healer to count. After first two announce you realy dont need to annouce as you are now in a 4 sec Heal chain. 23level cleric have Healing if I recall and a Heal over time. So prehaps one spams maybe every 2 cast they throw a Heal over time...

Obviosuly if things are goiong bad.. MT is takeing alot more dmg, or if the MT isn't taken as much dmg, we need to alter Heal Chain. Theirs no need to throw a 130 hps heal if the MT is at 98%, then again if he starts droping into the 40% we need the heal chain to kick it up. This is were a 3rd healer comes in. 2 Clerics in Chain, 3rd healer is patch healer, throwing Heal over Time jsut about always.

So healer 1 Heal Chain
Healer 2 Heal chain
Healer 3 Heal over time , and patch healer


if we dont have druid for 3rd healer, and the Hunter seem very resistant to spells, Nabal will turn into the 3rd healer.

I have max out Healing Specializetion and a Healing Enchament II item. He heals for 120 hps or so.

Ok what else..

Yes 70% is a good time for Nukers to come in. NOTE thou for Nukers... DO NOT CHAIN NUKE
If your nuke lands.. dont click it right away give it a 2 secs or so before you click, this will help keep the aggro on the MT.

Melee need to Stay Behind the Mob, only MT should be in its front arc.

The only exception to this is if MT is getting very very low, and their death might come, 2nd Tank needs to get to the Front and Begin Taunting and Aggro generating, if you can get enof biuld up, if MT goes down should be a smooth aggro transition to new ST.

Like I said Groups look good to me, hopefuly we will have a few more peeps show up once we are in game.

I want to second the comment about DONT RUN
This is a low level RAID, but still a RAID, in a RAID you should plan to die. Its a harsh truth that many new players are not acustom to. So if you get massive aggro steps to take..

-Stop Attack (this helsp the MT get the aggro back from you)
-DO NOT RUN (you can litteraly wipe a Raid doing that)
-Let Raid channel know you have aggro, this will help others to repostiion and to try and help switch Aggro back
-If your going to die, Then DIE fighting. What this means is if you about to die, the mobs not going to change targets no matter what, so just keep attacking and hit the mob with everythign you have.

Steps to help not get aggro
-Attack mob at Maxium range. This means when you have Confirmed hits on mob, try backing up alittle until you get the message your out of range, then step back just enof to get hits again. Mobs aggro depends on a couple factors, range to mob is one of them.

-Control your DPS output. Pouring out your Maxium firepower to hell with everyone else is just goign to get you killed. Knownig at what point you aggro mobs and dont aggro based on your DPS is important. If your another warrior and suddenly get a double critcal atack followed by 2 procs.. You might want to think about not hitting your Kick button. As you just shot way up on the aggro meter. Wait a sec or 2, then fire your kick off. This goes for other classes as well.

-Dont be in front Arc , coverd this before

-Dont stand near MT, this goes with Front arc, try to keep the mob between you and teh MT.
(or course if MT about to die, ST should be near him)


Think thats about it.... I think we have a good shot at this.

I should be in game at 11:30, Will do some quick banking in Athica then hit portal in Caldrun to Sunder, then to Oasis.
 
ok so Clerics take note of what kirin said, establish a healing chain and concentrate on Drak the friendly lizard!

Melee folks, take note of the styles strategy I posted and combine that with what kirin said. When I go into defensive mode, that means I'm going to die soon, so I want ST to start moving in front of mob and taunting and switch to normal mode.

Did your friend not like the fact that his ranger was assigned off tank? I could understand that, but it's an important role in North wastes, as pumas love to interrupt shit over there. There are indeed wanderers so I'm going to try to pull to coast.

I want to remind all of you to make a new chat window strictly for Main raid channel. Main raid channel is NOT the default raid channel, which we are going to be using for all the hotbutton spam and chatter. I'm going to create a channel and tell you what it is when we form groups. At first I'm going to give everyone access to it, but I INSIST that only IMPORTANT messages be trasmitted there. These include warnings about adds, my orders, any mezes from possible enchanters to avoid breaking mez, important healing messages (does not include regular macro chatter). Pretty much nothing else.

As midget mage said, go ahead and post things twice to make sure people get the message. OK, we're gettin into gear here. Please check this thread for updates frequently. Make sure you post to tell me you understand your role.

Clerics, discuss your heal order and chains, as you are the ones most familiar with your casting times. But be sure to tell me you've figured it out.
 
was not able to get Marmee leveld. Did some major traveling got port runes neeeded with Dawd. (thank you Dawd)
I am on mountain time 8:30pm here will see you in two hours.
Note to Kirin .. i dont believe i have a heal over time spell yet at 23. I have a group heal. Next set of spells 24 and carrying with me just in case.
Marmee 23 cleric
 
I'm going into SOD now, so I'll be available for tells on Draknor, but please confirm you're down with the plan on this thread.

Edit: Ok I'm at oasis now, and I just wanted to elaborate on the loot policy

The sash is going to one of the clerics or druids you will roll for it
The cowl is going to anyone that heavily uses dots, which at the moment only includes Nebal which is why you're not rolling for sash, this will also be for pure casters since its the most useful loot for them and I don't want to leave them out
The scythe will go to one of the tanks or rangers
and the mesh robe will be among strictly the tank classes who need it the most.

If anyone has any problems with this, tell me, but I'm pretty firm on it.
 
got it read the plan. Me and Dawde will form chain heal with ... ? who is third fill in healer.
will create hot keys for targeting MT, ST,OST.
logging in .. am bound in sundered mtns.
Marmee
 
Cool will try to be here as much as possible , I am a lvl 23 Druid and have a lvl 22 rogue as long with a lvl 22 shd . any questions you have for me plse email me them ty .
 
:D WOW .. .THANK YOU DRAKNOR AND ALL.. that was a fun ride! In the famous words of Larry the Cucumber... " I laughed, I cried, it moved me Bob!"
Just got bumped off server and as good as time as any to catch some sleep. See ya all later! Sweet dreams.
Marmee (still 23 cleric but with raid exp)

P.S. cant wait to see pics.
 
WOW what a night!

At first we didn't think we were going to have enough for spectre, so I occ'd it and BAM I got 5 more people. We ended up with

22 Druid
25 bst
22 Wiz
23 cle
24 cle
24(?) rogue
21 rng
21 pally
25 shm
22 mnk

I hope I didn't forget anyone

It was incredible!

Too bad spectre wasn't there ;( . We didn't fret though and thanks to our stupendous 25 bst Jarr, who had a druid, we got rides to greenmist and moved on to OSM. We got one hell of a group together as you can see here



Unfortunately, the Wind Hag's insane difficulty proved too much for us, as she summons wind elementals that we just couldn't handle. If only they didn't fricken summon! Argh! Can't even kite them!

After two tries a lot of our crew gave up, and we decided we couldn't do this. I was getting quite sad and thought it might have been another bust. However I could not have asked for a more solid group of people, and those who stayed let me know they were in it for the long haul. With new resolve, we headed to north badlands to take on huntfang, with Azmat's capable hand now able to help us.

On our way there, a dependable gent by the name of Heca sent me a tell inquiring about the raid. If only you had come twenty minutes sooner heca! One of us would be sporting that hag claw for sure!! :mad: Just kidding. However, knowing that we now had Azmat and Heca, we trudged on through the LOOOONG run to Northern Badlands. With such strong fighters on our side now, I went from being the main tank to the OST. I swallowed my ego and simply remembered to feel thankful for being in such good company. I was surprised that we kept so many of our ranks. Everyone who'd been there since the begining of this thread showed up and stayed.

The battle begins....



I had a very good feeling since the beginning of this fight, our dps wasn't the best it could be due to lack of real nukers, but our healing was PHENOMENAL. This meant we were in for a long fight, and I didn't exactly have the best view:



Heca's life teetered exceedingly close to the edge, the tanks readied their taunt buttons and changed their styles, and then in a haze of green smoke we heard the death rattle of Huntfang




We had won...

Special congratulations to Loot winners Azmat and newcomer Elandar, whose presence in the raid provided that much needed extra healing power. Azmat won the Huntfang skin boots http://www.angrygamer.net/sodwiki/index.php?title=Huntfang_Skin_Boots and Elan got the Worn Goldmetal Lantern http://www.angrygamer.net/sodwiki/index.php?title=Worn_Goldmetal_Lantern




They were then promptly ravaged by a griffon




I can't believe Heca hung in for the whole fight. In fact no one died and performed to the best expected level. You guys rock and I can't thank you enough for participating. I really hope you guys are up for another try at spectre and wind hag. Let me know if we have enough people to do this again. I'm actually free tommorow, but I know more than a few of you have said you have prior engagements. But if you ARE free tommorow I'm totally up for another raid. Windhag has such great loot to be won!
 
Fantastic Group! Gladly due it agin in a heart beat!

No one complained, everyone had fun, even when the wind hag handed us our butts.

The Griffon at the end was priceless LOL we all feeling bad asss and here comes this griffon to kick our butts LOL.

I had Azmat spam his Group healing spells, and going full bore in aggressive style :)

I ended up being Off Tank, and killing

3 Ravaged Corpses
1 Spider
2 Lioness
1 Lion Cub

During the fight LOL

Nabal went OOM so many times, luckly between his FF2 summoned staff, and hitting caniblize with no regard for my hp bar (droped to 22% at one point) I mange tokeep throwing heals and slows out.

Great Job by Heca keeping aggro!

Everyone did thier jobs perfectly and we won the long drawn out fight!!

if no one could tell I was getting tired at the end, having to switch between 2 characters that much I started forgetting who i was on LOL and eneded up rollling for loot with the wrong character, then looting with the wrong character.

Thinking I just screwed up big time, Draknor pointed out that the boots were better for Nabal anyways LOL

So even thou Azmat won, Nabal ended up looting.


Which reminds me... since it hit 4 and we all got Kicked, I never did mange to give away my old boots.
Did anyone in the Adept Raid needs my old boots? AC 10 +10 Sta?

So like I tryed to say right before I got kicked, I will be away the rest of the week until Sunday night. So please dont feel like I am avoiding anyone :) Be safe all!! And Thank you all very very much!! was great and we will definitly haev to due this some more.

Special Thanks also to..

Jarr for his druids Tps :)
Marmee for always getting worryed when ever nabal hit 20% from Canniblize :D
Heca for being da Man.. I mean Frog :)

And of Course Draknor.. the Lizard who brought us all together!!

3 cheers for the Adept Hunters (sounds like a guild name? :) )
 
hi all im up to raid adepts i have done one successful so far with my cleric vlana she 24th and i have a 25th warrior. i am a old pro at the cleric end as in live i am/ was a 70 cleric with 1200 plus aa and 100dres of succeful raid let me know what your planes are i can orangins the healers into chain and set up back up chains as well o ya my bro is kirin in real life ehheh. hi ya azmat and nabal if any one want back ground on me im ginnol in live side ehhehe. :D
 
I took off after the second wipe just because I didn't land one spell on the Hag. I did all my damage meleeing... That and I was ridiculously tired.
 
Good time

Hey guys. Just wanted to stop by and say I had a hella good time last night. I still wish we could have had another swing at the Wind Hag, but some other time I guess. Also, that was some great teamwork on Huntfang. The add tanking was flawless. I'll always be game to hit adepts with that group. Just give me a yell.
 
Garison said:
I took off after the second wipe just because I didn't land one spell on the Hag. I did all my damage meleeing... That and I was ridiculously tired.
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No worries, if we get everyone together again soon we're gonna try for Spectre again, and I'm pretty sure your spells will land on him. If heca and kirens brother show up we can even take on windhag. Hey anybody who had an enchanter friend who can join DRAG THEM IN HERE. I think that's the missing component in our group. Also another pure caster wouldn't hurt. Garison, if we do this again this weekend I'm sure you'll have better luck. You're always welcome to come and we didn't feel any ill will towards you for leaving. I just didn't see you go and was surprised when I couldn't find you. Does anyone know where Myako ended up? He coulda had a shot at that lantern! Oh well, I'm sure Elandar doesn't mind too much :)

Ok everyone I've said this before and I'll say it again, post your availability so I can schedule next raid!
 
Hey guys, I was a newcomer last night when Draknor was OOC'ing for more and so hadn't made arrangements to stay up late. I did hang in for the first 2 attempts on the Hag with Ectom, lvl 23 Rogue. What I remember doing most was bandaging Nabal while he cannabalized and buffed the entire raid as the only shaman. The fights were great, we came very close both times, with a 23% left the first time I think, and it was 17% when I went down the 2nd time. I'd like to try it all again. I was landing hits for damage in the 20's range and backstabbing a few times in the 80's and 110 range, so I think with so many spells being resisted last night, we can use the steady damage. I imagine I've got about a week before I get too high a level. BTW my prime time for playing is 9pm-2am CST.
 
A bit of a note about adepts. As part of this week's tweaks I am making them resist/avoid like a mob of their engage level rather than their real level, so that there's a broader range of player levels that can hurt them.
 
That was sooo fun~ :D Definately want to do that again. Very good learning experience for me. Norlatat you mentioned helping to set up heal chain. If you can PM me an example of exactly what the wording is you use or just post here it would be nice. Like how to create the hot button key and the... line one "/target Draknor" , line two "/cast 1", line three "/tell _____ healing Draknor begin CH 4 seconds", stuff like that would be good to have in writing.

I needed to explain how to do that to someone else and kinda took a while. There are those of us (me included) rusty on the raid technique. Any help from you Norlatat on cleric job would be great. I want to send people to this thread so they can see what to do before they show up.

Thanks to the nice person who gave me a summoned staff to use for raid... What was the name of that thing! /drools I want one! It was great! :) (can you buy anything like that in game?) Thanks to Azmat for borrowing me some gloves and some bracers. I see you are out of town so PM me when you get back & I can return items to you. Thanks to Drawde for running all over SoD with me before the raid to get my portal runes. Thanks Draknor for invite and all you others who kept me alive!

I can be avail again late tonight . Poss late Fri and or Sat night as well. ;) Later!
Marmee 23 cleric
 
Wiz said:
A bit of a note about adepts. As part of this week's tweaks I am making them resist/avoid like a mob of their engage level rather than their real level, so that there's a broader range of player levels that can hurt them.
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Wow, thanks wiz, that information makes me want to organize something TONIGHT!

Ok folks, tell me if you're down for doing this at 10 pm Est, because if I get enough responses, I'm going to set up in oasis and start a spectre raid. If that goes well we're going straight to wind hag.

Guys we only have a short period of time to take advantage of the Adepts being tweaked, so let's do as many raids as possible.

What this means is that more people are going to be allowed in. If their engage level is now their acting level, we can accept people that are about 19 and 20 as opposed to mostly cutting off all but a few who were below 21. If you were left out last time this is your chance. However it is extremely important that you read this thread and gather all the information in it. I'm going to make a condensed version in my next post, hopefully I'll have gotten a few bites by then from interested players. We've shown we can take down huntfang, so let's try that blasted spectre!

I can't stress enough the importance of this opportunity, if we're going to get them, its going to be during this period, and the sooner the better.
 
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