I figured this was the best place to post this, being the War thread and all.
During the last outbreak of war, Faydwer took a hefty beating right up until we managed to hold em off in Athica. 2 raids were assembled to clear out Kaezul's forces from wherever they may have lurked in Gfay, GSM, and Cauldron. I enjoyed it immensely, because I like being part of events like this. Regardless of how many times I take a beatdown or lag out horrifically, I find it fun. But alot of people DON'T. At least, they don't enjoy doing things like this with no reward. And there really wasn't a reward.
For every zone we cleared, we lost more and more of our forces. We started out with 2 full raids in Gfay, plus a few stragglers who couldn't be fit into the raid. By the time we hit up GSM, we'd dropped to about 1 and a half. We finished off Cauldron with about 17 people, one of which was a level 47 monk who was simply tagging along for fun. We won in the end, but now I'm worried about future Wars. Why? Because at the end of it, 90% of the people I talked to basically said "Fuck! Remind me to never do one of these again!".
Maybe it was because at the time the lag was absolutely mind boggling. More likely it was because despite saving half a continent... there was no real reward. As far as I'm aware, 3-4 items dropped. The only one that was worth a thing was Long Shot. When we stomped all over Cauldron, the only loot that dropped went to the tag-a-long because none of the 65s had the slightest bit of use for it. And believe me, some of us are very badly geared 65s (or I am at any rate).
People aren't going to participate in the Wars if there's no real reward for it. I died 4 times attempting to keep the forces of Kaezul from marching ever closer to a city that I don't even like. I died again later trying to clear them out of a tree top city that hates my guts and would happily stick my inky black head on a pike. The loot that dropped was by and large substandard. I'm not expecting Prison loot to drop, believe me. But there's no motivation to participate if it isn't at least somewhat interesting stuff.
I realize that there's a built in motivation to the wars. You either do something about it or you lose your home. But for alot of people, even that isn't enough to get people off their asses until it's too late. I'm a roleplayer by nature, just ask the rest of CW. When war breaks out I'm the first one to say "FUCK EXP WE'RE AT WAR PEOPLES!" and rush off to whatever zone needs defending. I don't need a reward. But other people do. Maybe it doesn't even have to be an item reward. How bout a little positive faction for saving a city? I lost my life defending Athica and the paladin guild is still trying to make me lose a few more.
I'm just sayin', maybe it could use a look-see? I can't save the world by myself.
