Tarhyl pledged toons

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Kapitol K

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So is it legit to wipe to rohk
give your tarhyl pledged toon a rez urn
then proceed to hail a Hakim scout at the entrance of First ruins to skip to the rohk elders and rez your group?

just watched this happen wonder if thats the new strat or what.

edit : just to clarify you hand the scout some levi clicky you get from doing the quest to port to the elders
 
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"Bring that one specific class and you can skip the entire clear. Do not bring it and you have to clear" totally sounds reasonable. Right. (NO IT DOESN'T!!!)
Based off of this, it would be reasonable to assume that this is kind of sploity. Going to hope this is illegal. Basically using a specific class/character to skip a trash clear/reclear that is otherwise unavoidable SHOULD be illegal, judging off of recent rulings (the most recent sabuti jailing, the lug worm fiasco)
EDIT: Guess rogues can hide/sneak past doomwings
 
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NOT legit. God why do people think things like this are ok? Stop trying to find ways around the rules, you are going to lose.
 
NOT legit. God why do people think things like this are ok? Stop trying to find ways around the rules, you are going to lose.
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Slightly unrelated:

What are the limitations on Rogue sneak/hide as far as wipe recovery? I know I've used sneak/hide to rez after a wipe on a handful of occasions -- e.g. Windstone (where some entrance mobs are up but I've beaten respawn time near where we actually wiped) or Emberflow (rezing at Baphomet platform when entrance mobs are up). I didn't think anything of it at the time (except maybe, hey Rogue utility!) -- but re-reading policy I don't know if this is allowed?
 
Slightly unrelated:

What are the limitations on Rogue sneak/hide as far as wipe recovery? I know I've used sneak/hide to rez after a wipe on a handful of occasions -- e.g. Windstone (where some entrance mobs are up but I've beaten respawn time near where we actually wiped) or Emberflow (rezing at Baphomet platform when entrance mobs are up). I didn't think anything of it at the time (except maybe, hey Rogue utility!) -- but re-reading policy I don't know if this is allowed?

it is allowed since you are INVISING past mobs thats the way they word it so it cant be against the rules.
While FDing past things is considered content skipping seems pretty double standardish but hey keep the sk/monk duos down cant have them farming anything or even having fun.
 
Slightly unrelated:

What are the limitations on Rogue sneak/hide as far as wipe recovery? I know I've used sneak/hide to rez after a wipe on a handful of occasions -- e.g. Windstone (where some entrance mobs are up but I've beaten respawn time near where we actually wiped) or Emberflow (rezing at Baphomet platform when entrance mobs are up). I didn't think anything of it at the time (except maybe, hey Rogue utility!) -- but re-reading policy I don't know if this is allowed?


A long time ago thinkmeats said it was cool to just have rogues run back in emberflow or HMAL (where he even added the corpse call points). I dunno if that applies to every other zone but in the spirit of zone-specific-rules.


I thought monks were allowed to flop back and rez people if they were in the group who wiped? When the hell did that change.
 
Yeah but using rogue invis to get past things was also ruled content skipping, so really its quite up in the air
No it wasn't. Using a Rogue to skip content for an entire group was obviously illegal and unintended, not the same here.
 
I think it's pretty obvious what the rule is and I think you guys are really reaching with the whole FD thing...

Feign Death = Not a method of bypassing mobs that would otherwise aggro.

Invisibility / Sneak Hide = Is an intended method of bypassing things that aggro for any character that can do it. However, obviously sneak/hiding past mobs that see normal invisibility and then rezzing non-sneak/hiders past them with a rez urn or whatever would be skipping. I would assume that rezzing a group that has already cleared their way in and then died with an urn would be fine if you're not moving the corpses, since that group earned its way there once already.

Devs can make a mob see through sneak or hide or invis, but they can't program a mob to not reset aggro on FD. It's really really obvious that you're doing things that aren't intended by FDing past mobs.

If FDing then running 3 feet while it's on CD then FDing again and rinse / repeat until you've bypassed dozens of mobs doesn't feel wrong to you then I guess anything I type here isn't going to really connect either.
 
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It's really really obvious that you're doing things that aren't intended by FDing past mobs.

ok if people see it that way fine

I thought monks were allowed to flop back and rez people if they were in the group who wiped? When the hell did that change.

this is the way that i saw it, what do you know people interpret things differently

anyways this thread can just die now it was never supposed to be about FD, it was about degenerates abusing exploits and getting slapped on the wrists
 
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