Song: Selo's Song of Travel

iaeolan

iaeolan

Dalayan Elder
Quite a worthless spell on live if you ask me, but here its quite nice.
2 mins of invis, see invis, levitate, and selo's for the bard's group.

I wish to ask that /cmd endsong does not cancel it's effect. It appears in normal buffslot and if you zone, or are not the bard, it stays for a long duration. Obviously this is a fragile spell, so this change will not allow more song effects to be stacked, but less actually. I just feel that it would be nice to be able to cast it once for the people that want it and have that be it instead of it pulsing every 6 seconds to the pet classes dismay. Or, to be able to remove and memorize different songs before an encounter while still being invisible.
 
Not sure I got the meaning (I don't know much about barding) but here's my thought as a "pet class". If I understand well, it puts a common buff every 6 secs with an invis component, which seems to be the problem.

I wish to ask that /cmd endsong does not cancel it's effect. It appears in normal buffslot and if you zone, or are not the bard, it stays for a long duration[...] I just feel that it would be nice to be able to cast it once for the people that want it and have that be it instead of it pulsing every 6 seconds to the pet classes dismay.
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First asking for a bard song to stay longer sounds weird... it should be related to the song , it's not a buff. Perhaps it should be on the song window and not the buff, but I don't see why this request should be fulfilled.

Second, this sounds like an invis buff for a pet class, so you may just have to announce it before tossing (just like the invis clicky that everyone uses at least one time just to discover it's an invis spell and getting yelled at by the pet classes, n'est-ce pas Kleines ? :p ) and if the pet master doesn't want to lose his pet he'll have to disband group and do it his way, sounds logical.

Or, to be able to remove and memorize different songs before an encounter while still being invisible.
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This I don't understand...you cant mem other songs being invis ? I thought you could.

Sorry I don't backup you , but if I didn't understand what you meant very well please argue.
 
Dzillon said:
Not sure I got the meaning (I don't know much about barding) but here's my thought as a "pet class". If I understand well, it puts a common buff every 6 secs with an invis component, which seems to be the problem.

First asking for a bard song to stay longer sounds weird... it should be related to the song , it's not a buff. Perhaps it should be on the song window and not the buff, but I don't see why this request should be fulfilled.

Second, this sounds like an invis buff for a pet class, so you may just have to announce it before tossing (just like the invis clicky that everyone uses at least one time just to discover it's an invis spell and getting yelled at by the pet classes, n'est-ce pas Kleines ? :p ) and if the pet master doesn't want to lose his pet he'll have to disband group and do it his way, sounds logical.
This I don't understand...you cant mem other songs being invis ? I thought you could.

Sorry I don't backup you , but if I didn't understand what you meant very well please argue.
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I did not expect to have to write a bard tutorial for this but...

In it's current form, The song is added to the melody and basically gives the effect every 6 seconds. This song effect lasts for a few minutes if you were to run out of range or to zone. The buff duration is immidiatly nulled and cancelled for all parties with the buff if /cmd endsong is used. After you zone the melody is reset, and the buff stays for its normal duration. I'm simply asking that it stays its normal duration after /cmd endsong is used.

And no, I can not unmem current songs while the song is on the melody and remain w/ its effect, but I can after I zone.
 
As per the original rules of the spell, as an active song, even sitting down to memorize a new song would make the effect to wear. The changes you're suggesting would not only allow someone to get a quick "buff" and then run off with it (exactly the opposite of how every other bard buff song works, but whatever!), but it would allow you to cast it, stop singing it, de-mem it, and mem a new song, without it wearing at all - thus changing the fundamental rules of the song.

If I recall correctly, the SSoT was recently changed from a 6 second duration to a 2 minute duration. As it is useful to any group traveling through hostile territory, and any having the song wear could potentially be fata,l (levi dropping as you crest the cliff in WW, anyone?) the extension to 2 minutes as a "grace period" for travelers was a godsend.

I don't think this song was ever intended to act as a mere "buff" (That is, group members get it, then run off while the bard stays where he is, handling other requests for SSoT.) I'm just grateful that the duration was extended to 2 minutes - genious if you ask me.

A better solution to this "problem" would be (if possible ) to make the pets stay. After all, the song does have a "see invisible" component, so from a role-play perspective there's no reason the pet would assume you just disappeared.
 
I heard the "no pet while invis" is hardcoded :(
Same event happens when you just invis vs undead yourself...
 
Allielyn said:
The changes you're suggesting would not only allow someone to get a quick "buff" and then run off with it (exactly the opposite of how every other bard buff song works, but whatever!)
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2 minutes is enough time to get anywhere with selos, really. My point is why should the song fade prematurely when a) after you zone, you can do whatever the crap you want with melody and memmed songs (just like everyone else in the group) and b) its a fragile song, so its not like you can start it, stop the melody and then start singing other songs two exploitively stack with it (even though you can do that while the melody is running)
 
Although you can "hax" it by zoning after singing it, I dont' see any reason to make it this way as a matter of course. That was never the intended "use" of the duration. The intended "use" was merely to make sure that a group traveling together with SSoT doesn't get screwed when somebody fails to make the "6 second rule" and be in range of the bard. As such, it works extremely well.
 
Allielyn said:
Although you can "hax" it by zoning after singing it, I dont' see any reason to make it this way as a matter of course. That was never the intended "use" of the duration. The intended "use" was merely to make sure that a group traveling together with SSoT doesn't get screwed when somebody fails to make the "6 second rule" and be in range of the bard. As such, it works extremely well.
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I'm sure you are just pulling this guess out of thin air
 
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