significant changes?

[charlie2999]

Hey.
Im soon going to be starting to play on this server, as iver read that there have been a few changes to the characters im wondering are there any significant ones to the ones im considering playing as... And which has the most solopower atm?
Short description as i remember them from Sony's servers

Shadowknight: always liked tanking and soloing and especially LT's proc fanatics at later levels, to the level where they can almost heal all of themselves with LT's on medium mobs

Magician: Selfcontained superuser, tank, weapons/armor (summoning) and almost badassnukes
Do they still kickass? in regular Game they found groups easy enough and soloed most things..

Wizzard: boom, just boom!
They got groups raids and anything else they wanted, just a little boring to play.

On another note.. im just curious, how much power is needed to run the server.
Is it a monster quad core xeon machine with massive ammounts of ram and dedicated 1000Mbit line or..?
Just curious as to what kinda hardwire you guys got under the skirt

Have a nice day!
//Charlie

 

[robopirateninja]

In general the classes aren't changed a ton, they all fulfill the same roles. SKs tank well but they work better with a healer/SK duo than solo, their lifetaps arent really a healing powerhouse. Magicians are pretty good solo xpers, but I've heard stories about chainsummoning to solo raid mobs on Live; that can't happen here. Wizards go boom!

EQ doesn't support quad core anyoything if you have multiple processors you need to disable them and run the game on one core or you get weird graphics issues. EQ was originally released in the 90s, it's not INCREDIBLY beefy.

 

[charlie2999]

in the live series the experience caps were removed for all races, is this the same here?
Can i finally play an iksar or troll, hate exp caps...?

Also i read that the bard was changed significantly from live, where can i read more about this?

P.S. does the ranger kick any ass? Never really played this class always been meaning too though, DPS? wanted in grps?, solo power?

 

[robopirateninja]

I didn't play live but I've been around here for quite a while so I can answer some questions:

iksars and troll have exp penalties, humans and half-elves have exp bonuses

bards don't "twist" the way they used to, they automatically play a melody of up to two beneficial songs plus they have the ability to twist two detrimental songs on a target

rangers are pretty good but they used to be overpowered and the best dps class in the game so when they got balanced people started complaining a lot. They still do significant DPS, but less than a rogue or wizard. They're good on raids because they can do melee dps from outside AE range if necessary, and they have some decent raidwide buffs. They are pretty good solo or in a duo as well, rangers can pull off a scrappy tank role and heal themselves to some extent.

 

[charlie2999]

bards don't "twist" the way they used to, they automatically play a melody of up to two beneficial songs plus they have the ability to twist two detrimental songs on a target

at the same time?, Can they for example play 'regen song' & 'run freaky fast song' at same time as they twist two damage songs?

rangers are pretty good but they used to be overpowered and the best dps class in the game so when they got balanced

So are they more 'balanced' *coff* nerfed *coff* here than on Live servers?
I remember seeing one ranger hitting for close to 1k pretty frequently ( he was around 65-70 at the time ) in the zone PoI, is that as they would here or alot better / worse?

adding one more question to the pot..
Beastlords; are they as they used to be?
Can they still solo / tank / dps as they could on live or have they been *balanced* aswell =P

Thanks for all the info, getting more and more exited to get back into the game

 

[Brimztone]

Magician: Selfcontained superuser, tank, weapons/armor (summoning) and almost badassnukes
Do they still kickass? in regular Game they found groups easy enough and soloed most things...

Pretty good soloers(not as good as a Bard or Necro, but they are good). Main function is a summoner tho. Mod Rods, Peridots(can summon them here), Searfire augs, pet toys(not as Monstrous as they were on live, but they are still pretty average). No more CoH chains like there were on Live. It doesn't cost a pearl here, but it has a 10 min re-cast. Not so much badass nukes, more of badass rains and good nukes. Pretty high DPS, but they have utility in the form of summons and fire DS and such.

 

[Syalara]

at the same time?, Can they for example play 'regen song' & 'run freaky fast song' at same time as they twist two damage songs?

Yes, the 2 beneficial songs in your melody are more or less set it and forget it...the 2 dots you need to twist manually.

You can end the dots by ducking and still keep your melody up, or you can /cm endsong to end all songs.

adding one more question to the pot..
Beastlords; are they as they used to be?
Can they still solo / tank / dps as they could on live or have they been *balanced* aswell =P

I am not familiar with Live Bsts but as far as they go here, I dont view them as tanks really. They wont fall over dead if a mob looks at 'em and they can take some damage in pet stance even from raid mobs but tanks they are not. They arent bad DPS but contribute far more to a raid with buffs like Cunning of the Beast and Savagery and Spiritual Vigor. I will not raid without a BST and I rarely group without one, they may not be the flashiest class going but man they can be versatile.

I never tried to solo a BST, I always had a Dru sitting as backup for heals and buffs and stuff. I would think soloing a BST would be a lil rough unless you pick your mobs very carefully. I may be wrong on this /shrug

 

[charlie2999]

Syalara:

they may not be the flashiest class going but man they can be versatile.

So who is the flashiest?

Heres question demanding a very biased response...
I've been away for a while from this game, as im sure you've figure out by now...
So me and my bro want to start playing, hes pretty sure about playing a beastlord
which other class would you guys recomend for duoing excelency?

Im thinking of sk, mage, ranger, shaman.. but all i want is, grps, solopower, and dps.. Id play anything that satisfies those really
(reason necro is not mentioned is i played one to 70 on Live)

 

[Rrowrr]

Bards: So are they more 'balanced' *coff* nerfed *coff* here than on Live servers?

Overall, Bards are more powerful on SoD because you can guarantee 4 songs going at once. Whereas on Live you could almost keep 3 songs going, maybe, if you had a good computer, good connection, and steady finger reaction time.

SoD Bards can not twist 3 damage songs, which is a significant decrease in damage potential. However, with 2 automatic beneficial songs, plus two attack songs, Bards are much much stronger in group support roles.

One interesting SoD issue is that you can have Selo's running, Healing/Mana running, and have Invis song running all at the same time. Giving a net effect of 3 beneficial songs, in a few instances. Invis drops when attacking, of course.

If you try to twist 3 damage songs, the game automatically cancells the first song cast so that only two attack/damage songs (slow, mezz, DD, DoT, whatever) are active at any time. Same with beneficial songs, in that the third song cast cancells out the first song cast.

One must have is a hot button to "/cm endsong". Because, unlike Live, two beneficial songs and one attack song will run automatically and continuously. This can be a problem when certain attack songs are still active and you accidentally target a friendly NPC.

 

[Rrowrr]

So who is the flashiest?

Flash is in the eye of the beholder, but is seems that good clerics are always in short supply. And you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a Bard, Necro, Druid, or Monk.

 

[Plasmatic]

Flash is in the eye of the beholder, but is seems that good clerics are always in short supply. And you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a Bard, Necro, Druid, or Monk.

swing a Dead cat? .... what do you mean?

 

[vistachiri]

Magician: Selfcontained superuser, tank, weapons/armor (summoning) and almost badassnukes
Do they still kickass? in regular Game they found groups easy enough and soloed most things..

Not particularly self contained here. If you're looking for self-sufficient, roll a necro. No armor summoning, only weapons. Pet healing leaves alot to be desired (large recast), single target nukes not the byword, you're looking at rains, rains, and more rains. Though there is a notably badass little nuke called scars of sigil you'll snag at 55. Fast as hell, low damage, good finisher for conserving mana. Pets require buffs really if you want to solo efficiently at the higher level. While the higher pets do have a healthy chunk of hps, aisling can probably take a hit better than tacotown can. Raego, EOT, EOTW, RFocus, Sihala's, just stack on the buffs until they have in the neighborhood of 9k hps and you can solo some decent stuff. Downtime is a bit long due to the healing you'll have to do afterward and during though (on acct of recast + massive ton of hp). Looking for a better soloer, try necro, bard, ranger, etc.

Groups were not easy to find leveling, though that situation is similar to most classes (other than healers, and sometimes even thats a chore, depends more on who you know and when you're on, pickup groups are not the best choice generally for anything, get a small group of friends going if you want to move fast and efficiently). Monster summoning is a bit different, but very kickass.

 

[Nepentheia]

Heres question demanding a very biased response...
I've been away for a while from this game, as im sure you've figure out by now...
So me and my bro want to start playing, hes pretty sure about playing a beastlord
which other class would you guys recomend for duoing excelency?

An idea that you and your brother might perhaps consider, is to dual box two characters each, so between the two of you, you have four characters total to group up and exp with. With a well-thought out combination of classes, you two can do quite nicely exp'ing and gaining levels together.

 

[charlie2999]

is to dual box two characters each

We've considered that aswell but it kinda doubles the problems .. now weve got two characters we cant decide on each instead of just one =P
Was thinking for me:
mage - shaman
sk - cleric or shaman
or perhaps a bard, thing about them i dont like is they don't allow you to help others out as much, like with a shaman i can always go help out newbies with mad buffage

My bro is considering
bst - druid

Just so hard to decide =P, I've played almost every class to 50+ (and alot to 70) on Live so kinda annoying starting over with no cash no gear too..
awell im gonna go sleep now, maybe ill have an an appiffany about it all during the night =P

btw, i tried that fps limiting program but it limited the FPS to much, made the game slow and annoying.. everything was slowmotion... dident realise it was the app doing it untill i tried without it and EQ ran perfectly fine..

 

[robopirateninja]

for a kickass 4man group somethng like:

monk or sk/dru
and
beastlord/wizard

I'm kinda biased I guess because I like to duo bst/wiz but I think thats the most awesome 4man group

 

[iaeolan]

Whereas on Live you could almost keep 3 songs going, maybe, if you had a good computer, good connection, and steady finger reaction time.

3 was the standard syduck:

I've had 5 normal songs running at once before.

 

[BranFlakes]

like with a shaman i can always go help out newbies with mad buffage

SoD also has a level limit of what buffs you can cast on players.
The buff itself cannot be more than 20 levels above the Player. (ie: druid/ shaman can cast SoW on a level 1 player, a ranger/ bst cannot)
Damage Shields cannot be more than 8 levels above.

 

[vistachiri]

We've considered that aswell but it kinda doubles the problems .. now weve got two characters we cant decide on each instead of just one =P
Was thinking for me:
mage - shaman
sk - cleric or shaman
or perhaps a bard, thing about them i dont like is they don't allow you to help others out as much, like with a shaman i can always go help out newbies with mad buffage

My bro is considering
bst - druid

Just so hard to decide =P, I've played almost every class to 50+ (and alot to 70) on Live so kinda annoying starting over with no cash no gear too..
awell im gonna go sleep now, maybe ill have an an appiffany about it all during the night =P

btw, i tried that fps limiting program but it limited the FPS to much, made the game slow and annoying.. everything was slowmotion... dident realise it was the app doing it untill i tried without it and Game ran perfectly fine..

If that's all he's considering it really depends on how often you'll be playing together. Personally I'd set up a combo of Sk+ Druid+ Mage +Shaman. Pretty generalist 4man for most of the needs you'll ever encounter.

 

[charlie2999]

Sk+ Druid+ Mage +Shaman.

dosent seem to far from
(Sk+Shaman) + (Druid+BeastLord)
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Leaning towards the sk - sha now but cleric would be sweet too

But well see if he plays a BL, if i undertsand correctly the vahShir race is diasabled and i think he wants the cat pets..
Dont think hell be to happy about barb ikky troll or ogre BL

if he dosent play BL , i will probably take shaman as we would have no slows otherwise.

 

[charlie2999]

It ended up with us both making a bard each
neither of us have played bard very much, and we figured two bards would be pretty good and fun to mess around with. If nothing else we can run in circles really fast untill we hurl.

Devix (me) and Titanz (Plasmatic) says hello

Anyone got some good quests or anything for bards, a naked singer with a rusty sword just dosent cut it for very long..

P.S. are bards mana regen same as on Live, where it is not affected by anything and the only thing that helps is sitting and waiting..?
P.S.S... i know i saw a page with bard song specifik commands around here somewhere but cant find them, link?