Shards of Dalaya Raid Progress.

Using all suggestions, this is what I have so far-


Tier 0-

Animal Named (Gnok, Plaguefang etc)
Teratzu
Dreadfang Tower up to Yinazra
West Waste Dragons
Lower freeport named
Ancient Deepfiend
Parcelain and Mielech

Tier 1-

Firkaal and West Dragonhorn Keep named
Enforcer Hsargh, High Priest Colrasha and Fluxator
Yinazra
Ancient Wind Torrent
Mushkl and Dblash in Torment
Mi Firah, Livia, High Scholar in Air.

Tier 2-

Faralak and other lesser named in SE
North Dragonhorn sans Zirvane and TR
Misery sans boss
Windrider in air
Shadowlord Kas'Thox (Freeport Boss)
King Rymaz

Tier 3-

Agonizer, Abom, Spiders and Gibber in torment
Zirvane and TR in DHK
Misery Boss
GoTSS and MotEC in Everchill
Great Librarian in SE

Tier 4-

Warden, Rotters in torment
Seductress, Sultan, and High Lady in air
Master of the Gates in Prison
Scribe in Sepulcher
Dergalak in SE

Tier 5-

Eurikos, Xavara, Spouses and gishna in Sepulcher
Mirrors and Manifestations in Prison.
Arbitor of Air in PoA
DOTO in sepulcher

Tier 6-

CoD up till Versikol
Blissfull in PoAir

Tier 7-

Versikol the Chained
Taeshlin the Guardian
Yashira

Tier 8-

Lower Thaz Minis
Deyranni
Farguziar

Tier 9-

Lower Thaz Bosses
Gharont
Ulaz

Tier 10-

Upper Thaz
Sanctum in Prison
 
Malluas said:
i would say ghar strattles 9 and 10 hehe :p

I wouldn't.

And Woldaff: all I see that you changed is moving up Taeshlin a tier and lowering Versikol a tier, along with adding a separate tier for IP dragons.
 
rab said:
I wouldn't.

And Woldaff: all I see that you changed is moving up Taeshlin a tier and lowering Versikol a tier, along with adding a separate tier for IP dragons.

hrmmmmmmmm i wonder why??!?!?!
 
TBH now that I have seen both Taeshlin and Versikol post 2.0 I would have to say they have seperated a good deal. I am all for steel progressing, and most of the guys in steel I like. It really didnt come into play in that decision.

About splitting up the IP dragons, atm they are all of varying difficulties compared to pre 2.0. Gharontosh isnt harder than the other IP dragons, he just takes more time to learn since he isnt as one dimensional.


That being said, I changed my upper post a bit to reflect the criticisms. I am still up in the air about Taeshlins, Blissfull and Yashiras spot.
 
Waldoff said:
TBH now that I have seen both Taeshlin and Versikol post 2.0 I would have to say they have seperated a good deal. I am all for steel progressing, and most of the guys in steel I like. It really didnt come into play in that decision.

About splitting up the IP dragons, atm they are all of varying difficulties compared to pre 2.0. Gharontosh isnt harder than the other IP dragons, he just takes more time to learn since he isnt as one dimensional.


That being said, I changed my upper post a bit to reflect the criticisms. I am still up in the air about Taeshlins, Blissfull and Yashiras spot.

maybe i'm wierd... but this just seems like a rediciously silly way of waving e-paens about. If people are heart-set on making some ranking thinger, then do it right, in an excel spreadsheet, with dates of when stuff happens and all that kinda crap. But as it is right now, its just a long way of saying *hey, we're #2, and really, we're not that far behind, and quite a bit ahead* (it contains only nominal information, no way to make ratial comparisons or anything useful.) Or atleast thats how it comes across to me.
 
guyvertoo said:
hrmmmmmmmm i wonder why??!?!?!

because versikol = trivial to ruin

taesh isn't :p


but seriously. Versikol is now easier than Taesh. Pre-2.0 i would say they were the same.

Aaubert someone wanted a set up of the progression Tier AND what people have done.. so thats whats there.

Rabb, yea Ghar isn't hard persay once you learn how to deal with the stuffs. But until you do its the hardest fight pre-thaz bosses imo.
 
Mythryn said:
Thaz minis and deyranni are probably tier 8.

i would say for sure fire mini is about deyranni level. and if the Warden wasn't changed then him to. Not sure about air.. and water was already a barely able to kill mob for us and it was buffed so.
 
I dont give a shit where ANY guild stands on ANYTHING on my list. I Drew it up for fun and was hoping to get honest opinions on it without people waving their collective guild dicks around.




Split the lower Thaz minis and bosses. Good suggestion, they are definitally varied when it comes to difficulty
 
I think the idea of a thread that has tiers of raid progress spelled out is a good thing, especially for rising guilds so they know what they can attempt next. However, keeping track of each guilds' progress in a thread is a bad idea the thread won't be maintained forever (not to mention the worthless conversations about whether or not a guild has moved up to another tier). If you care about where a particular guild stands, go to their website and figure it out yourself.
 
Waldoff said:
Using all suggestions, this is what I have so far-

Faralak and other lesser named in SE
North Dragonhorn sans Zirvane and TR
Misery sans boss
Windrider in air
Shadowlord Kas'Thox (Freeport Boss)
King Rymaz

May I request splitting up Misery? Clearly 1st watcher is not in the same tier as 3rd watcher, in my opinion. I don't know how Hunter of Souls compares to the two of those, either. I'd love a more complete breakdown of this zone.
 
Gharontosh isnt harder than the other IP dragons, he just takes more time to learn since he isnt as one dimensional.

I disagree completely with this statement. Gharontosh is a good bit harder then some of the other IP dragons.. I could go on and state why, but for fairly obvious reasons I won't. Gharon and Ulaz are a tier above deyranni, yashira, and farguziar imo.

Simply because Versikol is trivial to you and Taesh isn't doesn't seperate their tiers automatically. Different guilds have different class setups and different ways of doing things.
 
On splitting up misery, I am thinking Watcher 1 and 2 and HOS in one group and 3rd watcher ASoM in the other?


Realistically I supposed 3rd watcher is closer in difficulty to ASoM then it is the other watchers or HOS.
 
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