Relic Drop Rate.
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Gregor
Dalayan Beginner
I know I know it's just frusterating. I'm not sure of the actual % chance for one to drop but it has to be really really low single digets IMO. We are at tier 5 now which is nice but yet to see a single one drop from a tier 5 mob is saddening. I know they have a higher chance for a drop but from my experience it's can't be much better sence 0 has dropped from them yet.
Furrygamer
Dalayan Adventurer
Pick up raid a few nights ago with fusion people in NDHK. Got 2 relics and 1 ancient. Luckily I won the roll on one of the relics. Is there a difference between random number generation and luck? If none than lets all go catch some leprechauns! :keke:
Furrygamer
Dalayan Adventurer
That is like one of the two pieces left I need! The Pants are the other. Darn RNG, it laughs at us all!
Nebi
Dalayan Pious Diety
ok this has gotten a little side tracked.
i dont want relic percentage to be upped i just want another way of at least getting somethign for spending 4+ hours in a raid zone (spell wise)
what my idea is have the guy who give you a relic also give you a book thats missing pages. have the boss mobs when they dont drop a relic drop a relic fragment. make it so you need 10 fragments or something crazy like that to make a relic. i dont think that i should raid 3+ weeks and still not have one drop.
i dont want relic percentage to be upped i just want another way of at least getting somethign for spending 4+ hours in a raid zone (spell wise)
what my idea is have the guy who give you a relic also give you a book thats missing pages. have the boss mobs when they dont drop a relic drop a relic fragment. make it so you need 10 fragments or something crazy like that to make a relic. i dont think that i should raid 3+ weeks and still not have one drop.
Gregor
Dalayan Beginner
Well I still think going over a month and not seeing one single relic is a bit to long. Maybe a relic a week I can understand but when you start talking about a month or more thats a bit to excessive IMO.
Sure as you progress you have a better chance. The thing is we have progressed a bit more and still haven't seen an improvement. Relics are nice and should be rare but damn one relic a month if your lucky is a bit to rare IMO. Expecially when your talking about 18 people dedicating their time each raid day for weeks and months only to see maybe one if your lucky.
Thats kinda rare on a whole new level of being rare.
I would still like someone to post the percent chance one has to drop from a boss mob per tier of difficulty. That is if anyone actually knows besides just saying they are rare etc sence I know that part allready.
Sure as you progress you have a better chance. The thing is we have progressed a bit more and still haven't seen an improvement. Relics are nice and should be rare but damn one relic a month if your lucky is a bit to rare IMO. Expecially when your talking about 18 people dedicating their time each raid day for weeks and months only to see maybe one if your lucky.
Thats kinda rare on a whole new level of being rare.
I would still like someone to post the percent chance one has to drop from a boss mob per tier of difficulty. That is if anyone actually knows besides just saying they are rare etc sence I know that part allready.
avogadro
Dalayan Adventurer
Gregor
I know this will not help your relic problems but will help. Get your shamans done their not-called-epic-but-of-epic-proportions mask quest. This will give them a very useful mask for raids, but also the last mob you need to kill has a very high chance of dropping relic (3/3 in my case though I've been told it is not 100% chance of drop).
Don't consider killing the mob without doing quest cause in order to kill it you need to do all previous steps of the quest.
I know this will not help your relic problems but will help. Get your shamans done their not-called-epic-but-of-epic-proportions mask quest. This will give them a very useful mask for raids, but also the last mob you need to kill has a very high chance of dropping relic (3/3 in my case though I've been told it is not 100% chance of drop).
Don't consider killing the mob without doing quest cause in order to kill it you need to do all previous steps of the quest.
Wiz
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This is effectively the same as asking for a % up since it results in more relics for your time.
The answer is no.
Gregor
Dalayan Beginner
Bahh ohh well I figured nobody would say anything other then "they are rare."
Which goes hand in hand with everyone being able to blame the RNG sence there is no proof of the percentage a mob has to drop a relic.
Sence Wiz says no the answer will allways be no. I still don't see what the big deal is with producing actual numbers the RNG uses to produce a relic drop. From what I have seen in months and months and months of killing these bosses it's gotta be pretty darn close to maybe a 10% chance one would drop the entire raid on a very good day for the entry level bosses. In our case I would emagine we see maybe a 5% chance one will drop from a full or partial clear. Thats kinda pittiful considering 18 people dedicate their time to raiding. I could be wrong on the % but this is what I have gathered from countless boss kills on our tier. This is what I have gathered from tier 4 mob bosses. So far 0 have dropped for us on any of our tier 5 kills so I can't really give a guess to how rare they might be.
I'll let it go sence there is absolutly no chance for a change, but I'm not to impressed with the RNG excuse of them being rare sence I have never seen a lot drop before. I have only ever witnessed the crap end of the stick ever sence our first one dropped so long ago.
Which goes hand in hand with everyone being able to blame the RNG sence there is no proof of the percentage a mob has to drop a relic.
Sence Wiz says no the answer will allways be no. I still don't see what the big deal is with producing actual numbers the RNG uses to produce a relic drop. From what I have seen in months and months and months of killing these bosses it's gotta be pretty darn close to maybe a 10% chance one would drop the entire raid on a very good day for the entry level bosses. In our case I would emagine we see maybe a 5% chance one will drop from a full or partial clear. Thats kinda pittiful considering 18 people dedicate their time to raiding. I could be wrong on the % but this is what I have gathered from countless boss kills on our tier. This is what I have gathered from tier 4 mob bosses. So far 0 have dropped for us on any of our tier 5 kills so I can't really give a guess to how rare they might be.
I'll let it go sence there is absolutly no chance for a change, but I'm not to impressed with the RNG excuse of them being rare sence I have never seen a lot drop before. I have only ever witnessed the crap end of the stick ever sence our first one dropped so long ago.
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Wiz
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"The actual numbers" vary from mob to mob, I really don't see why we should pony up the exact drop numbers of each mob on your say-so. And yes, entry level raid mobs seldom drop relics, that's because they are entry level raid mobs.
Why do you assume that your idea of how rare Relics should be is the correct one? That seems to be the entire premise of the thread, that relics are "too rare". Says who? Relics are meant to be rare, that's why they drop throughout all tiers, you're not meant to be a fully reliced guild long before hitting the high tiers.
"RNG excuse"? Saying that something is rarely drops because it's rare is an excuse? For what?!
Why do you assume that your idea of how rare Relics should be is the correct one? That seems to be the entire premise of the thread, that relics are "too rare". Says who? Relics are meant to be rare, that's why they drop throughout all tiers, you're not meant to be a fully reliced guild long before hitting the high tiers.
"RNG excuse"? Saying that something is rarely drops because it's rare is an excuse? For what?!
Gregor
Dalayan Beginner
I really wasn't asking for a mob my mob comparison. I was mostly asking for players or even someone like you to give a "guess" on a percentage chance per tier. I was really only asking for a rough estimate on tiers 4 - 10. Something like this and yes it's just numbers Im tossing out there with no data. I'm just using it as an example of what i would and others would liek to see.
Tier 4 - 5%
Tier 5 - 10%
Tier 6 - 15%
Tier 7 - 20%
Tier 8 - 25%
Tier 9 - 30%
Tier 10 - 35%
Something like this would be nice but with close to factual numbers.
And yes from what I have seen I do think they are a bit to rare from my expecriences with tier 4 and 5 so far. I do know the chance improves as you progress which will eventually be nice someday.
I see you added a bit more to your post as I was trying to reply. I'm by no means asking or requesting them to become so common that you can outfit an entire guild when your only half way through the content like we are. I also don't see the point in killing endless bosses that can drop them but never seem to. This is doing 2 - 4 raids a week every week. I would like to hear anyone say that it's common to get maybe one per month after all those kills. If they think thats the norm then lord god I can't possibly say anything else.
People can chalk it up to being unlucky, but after what will be going on a year pretty soon I highly doubt the RNG excuse holds water anymore. I do believe no matter what anyone else says that the drop rate is to low on tier 4 and 5 from what I have seen so far.
Of corse I'm not trying to say make them so common you can gear an entire raid force, but one a month if your lucky is a little rediculious. We are not a hard core raid every day of the week kinda guild. Based of off what i have seen so far though even if we did raid another 3 days a week it really wouldn't help all that much more considering 0 + 0 + 0 will allways = 0 with the occasional +1 sprinkled in there once a month maybe, and thats a big maybe honestly.
Tier 4 - 5%
Tier 5 - 10%
Tier 6 - 15%
Tier 7 - 20%
Tier 8 - 25%
Tier 9 - 30%
Tier 10 - 35%
Something like this would be nice but with close to factual numbers.
And yes from what I have seen I do think they are a bit to rare from my expecriences with tier 4 and 5 so far. I do know the chance improves as you progress which will eventually be nice someday.
I see you added a bit more to your post as I was trying to reply. I'm by no means asking or requesting them to become so common that you can outfit an entire guild when your only half way through the content like we are. I also don't see the point in killing endless bosses that can drop them but never seem to. This is doing 2 - 4 raids a week every week. I would like to hear anyone say that it's common to get maybe one per month after all those kills. If they think thats the norm then lord god I can't possibly say anything else.
People can chalk it up to being unlucky, but after what will be going on a year pretty soon I highly doubt the RNG excuse holds water anymore. I do believe no matter what anyone else says that the drop rate is to low on tier 4 and 5 from what I have seen so far.
Of corse I'm not trying to say make them so common you can gear an entire raid force, but one a month if your lucky is a little rediculious. We are not a hard core raid every day of the week kinda guild. Based of off what i have seen so far though even if we did raid another 3 days a week it really wouldn't help all that much more considering 0 + 0 + 0 will allways = 0 with the occasional +1 sprinkled in there once a month maybe, and thats a big maybe honestly.
Gregor
Dalayan Beginner
And yeah I know higher tier guilds sell them to a merchant. I would also encourage you guys to send me a PM sence I will pay PP for my wizzies relics so I can end the endless heartache of not seeing any drop. All I need to know is the time and place to meet. I will be there with bells on and PP in my pocket.
This paying for Relics might be frowned upon and if it is I retract my post. I'm just really frusterated for myself and alot of others out there who spend alot of time on this game allready.
This paying for Relics might be frowned upon and if it is I retract my post. I'm just really frusterated for myself and alot of others out there who spend alot of time on this game allready.
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