Relic Drop Rate.

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Nebi

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Alright. Tonight <Goon Squad> just did an entire clear of torment and another zone. we killed about 8 + boss mobs with no relic drops. Obviously you win some you lose some but usually it seems like we're loosing some.

I have a simple idea that might help people trying to get relics get them a little faster...

Have each of the boss mobs of a zone drop an item that when you give to a quest npc he accepts it and gives you a relic. make it be like you need to kill 4 boss monsters before you get 1 relic or something but at least give us something else cause this is just insane. have the monsters still ahve their normal chance at dropping a relic but only give them the chance of droping that extra part to help those that are unlucky

thanks..
 
When I was at that tier I remember doing DHK/PoT/PoA quite every night and not getting relics for periods of 2 weeks.

Is all about RNG.

And also when you'll tier up you'll get more % of drop rate.
 
Relic drops can be weird at times. Since they are larger upgrades then most gear you can get from relic droppers they're bound to be rare.

If you still think relic droprate should be upped we can talk about Archaic drops for a moment. I had to wait 3 or more weeks to get my last relic and we were already doing CoD/OP/IP at that time. They'll come.
 
Relic drop rate is quite fine as it is, one instance of rotten luck is not a reason to change the game.
 
Alright. Tonight <Goon Squad> just did an entire clear of torment and another zone. we killed about 8 + boss mobs with no relic drops. Obviously you win some you lose some but usually it seems like we're loosing some.

I have a simple idea that might help people trying to get relics get them a little faster...

Have each of the boss mobs of a zone drop an item that when you give to a quest npc he accepts it and gives you a relic. make it be like you need to kill 4 boss monsters before you get 1 relic or something but at least give us something else cause this is just insane. have the monsters still ahve their normal chance at dropping a relic but only give them the chance of droping that extra part to help those that are unlucky

thanks..

It's a tossup man. There have been nights I've seen 3-5 drop no problem and absolutely astonish me, and weeks and weeks where I've seen none. Back when we were actually farming relics we had a decent amount of luck with going for quantity over quality. Husrag+ King, all of storms eye - hard elemental thing and omfg dergelak destroyer of raids (though I'll admit he is really fun), misery (an excellent, seldom completed zone). The whole idea behind that was really based on clear time, sure seductress may have a better chance with more major upgrades, but the clear time is longer, and in that time 3 lower chances and a bunch of minor to moderate upgrades just make the guild as a whole clear that much faster. With that in mind I would highly suggest taking an off night and running roughshod over lower tiered mobs with a relic chance.

Your idea sounds nice. But let me point out the largest flaw. You would have nothing to raid probably for the next 6 months, while a large portion of the high end players on the server farm the hell out of your targets (which are several tiers below them, thus you can easily bang through 12+ in a night w/out much effort, even going to the extent of one-grouping them) to compose personal buffbot armies of immense proportions. Which would also be bad for obvious reasons.
 
What Neebos said man. Gotta roll with it. Believe me, we've all rolled through PoTorment and gotten 0 relics off a full clear from Dblash to Warden, then gone back next week and got 5 of em. The RNG is a finicky beast.
 
Have records kept of Every relic dropped for us sence march of 2006. And yes there is lots of periods where relics didn't drop. They tend to come in waves for us some times we get 2-3 a night then not another for 3 weeks.
 
DHK and POT may drop relics but they aren't the best place to be farming for them. The only reason people do so is because there are so many names close together, the chance of an individual name dropping one is fairly low.

Higher tiered zones like Plane of Water, Plane of Nightmare, Outer Prison and (I assume, havent raided them much yet) Plane of Earth/Fire have a much better chance at dropping relics.
 
Have records kept of Every relic dropped for us sence march of 2006. And yes there is lots of periods where relics didn't drop. They tend to come in waves for us some times we get 2-3 a night then not another for 3 weeks.

Same here raiding 3 nights a week we pretty much average 7 - 10 relics a month.

Sometimes they all come in 1 week and sometimes they get spread out across the whole month.
 
Well I can say for our guild that the RNG must really hate us. It hasn't been a one time deal. It's been mostly spread out over the last 6 - 8 months of constant killing. Sometimes we will get one if we are lucky during a raid. The most we have ever gotten is 2 at once. Other then that it's smashing down named with a chance to drop but they never do. Needless to say it's getting really frusterating. If it was a one time deal then I wouldn't complain. The problem is it happens month in and month out raiding 2 - 3 times a week... Plus some pickups during our off days that yeild us zero relics 99% of the time.

Poe - Poa - Pot - some of Pow - Hom - Se - Ndhk - Pon - some of Sod - Gotss

All these zones listed above have a chance to drop relics. It's just a shame when you go there kick a shit ton of butt and allways come out empty handed. This is going on months now mind you not just a one time deal.

So yeah people can scream RNG all they want. I think thats kinda BS sence we allways get in alot of kills and allways or almost allways walk away with zero relics.

If you wanna scream RNG then we have to be about the unluckiest guild on SOD going on over 6 months of killing relic droppers week in and week out...

I wouldn't mind seeing an upped drop rate across the board. RNG or not the % chance is just way to low regaurdless of what anyone says based off of what I see every single raid, and yes I attend every single one w/o fail.
 
If you wanna scream RNG then we have to be about the unluckiest guild on SOD going on over 6 months of killing relic droppers week in and week out...

14 month for a single Archaic fragment that drops from trash in 4 (3) zones (IP, OP, Rust, Valor b). RNG can be the worst thing ever, trust me. I've seen full IP clears without relics and they have the highest chance AFAIK.


To sum it up: Relics are hard to come by and I think it should be that way. They're the most important thing for any relic'd class.
 
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