brasileira
Dalayan Elder
Again ranger is left behind.
There was only one time that people care about em, but fast got nerfed back.
There was only one time that people care about em, but fast got nerfed back.
Ranger DPS
- Thread starter Faelus
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He's not asking for anything rogues can't do.
I can tell you right now, there is no way i evade particularly often. Like 3x/fight on a big mob.
I could easily make a button that backstabs 5 times with /doability and /pause. He's asking for the same with archery.
Is it really overpowering to make him push a button every 15 seconds instead of every 3?
Think of it like bards. SoD removed twisting because it was a pain in the ass. Bards now enjoy the game more.
Why not do the same for rangers who use archery?
I can tell you right now, there is no way i evade particularly often. Like 3x/fight on a big mob.
I could easily make a button that backstabs 5 times with /doability and /pause. He's asking for the same with archery.
Is it really overpowering to make him push a button every 15 seconds instead of every 3?
Think of it like bards. SoD removed twisting because it was a pain in the ass. Bards now enjoy the game more.
Why not do the same for rangers who use archery?
Allielyn
*Pony*
I don't think having an "autofire" command that incorporates a little extra delay would be overpowered. Make it such that nonboxed rangers do better dps (~20-30%?) but boxed rangers aren't left in the dust bow-wise.
Certainly the bard changes seemed to shy away from the idea that classes should be key-spam heavy to counter the power given, and with the ranger dps reduction, it wouldn't be overpowered at all.
The only problem is, even if it was an okay change, I just don't see it being coded any time soon =(.
Certainly the bard changes seemed to shy away from the idea that classes should be key-spam heavy to counter the power given, and with the ranger dps reduction, it wouldn't be overpowered at all.
The only problem is, even if it was an okay change, I just don't see it being coded any time soon =(.
robopirateninja
Staff Emeritus
invest in a sewing machine :toot:
I don't think he's asking for an autofire. Besides, that has been shot down in the past.
He wants "/cmd firemybownowplease" to shoot one arrow. Just like pushing the range attack button.
The best you can then do with /pause and the /cmd is fire five in a row. Just like any other button mashing class.
The only thing this will do is make it easier for ranger's to bow and still talk etc. I'm 100% for this if it is possible.
He wants "/cmd firemybownowplease" to shoot one arrow. Just like pushing the range attack button.
The best you can then do with /pause and the /cmd is fire five in a row. Just like any other button mashing class.
The only thing this will do is make it easier for ranger's to bow and still talk etc. I'm 100% for this if it is possible.
Allielyn said:
Don't do this. Too many lazy people out there that would abuse this and give rangers a bad wrap.
I am in support with the /fireranged idea. That way I can make a hotkey and be able to talk at the same time. In the time it would take to fire my bow 3 times i can type just about anything. Please do this. It would require so little and mean so much.
Hey guys, I play Eustace in game, 65 ranger, 137 or so aa's right now.
Rangers don't need auto-fire. Giving us auto-fire means that I wouldn't have an excuse to zone out and just slam the 5 key without having to do anything else other than jolt and assist. Auto-fire would be great, but that would make me seem lazy when it looks like I work hard. So no auto-fire please.
The only thing that I would LOVE to see is a +10 damage aug for Swiftshot. Bows are so hard to come by, and us no-alt rangers like myself would really, really love you guys if you'd pass us the bacon. Or maybe just drizzle a little grease on a plate so we can smell it.
No auto-fire please, just more accessible good ratio fast bows. That's what rangers really need.
Edit: Oh yeah, forgot to add a few things. There's a few bows out there with insane procs on them, that no ranger would use if they knew what they were doing and were left with any alternative. Bows that AOE, knock-back, teleport you, these are all bad things. A bow that does a memory flux would also be a horrible thing to have. Stun procs, blinds, anything that draws aggro, hits more than one mob, moves the mob, nukes the ranger, these are bad, bad things. DD procs, atk buffs, dot procs, - these are awesome. Thanks!
Rangers don't need auto-fire. Giving us auto-fire means that I wouldn't have an excuse to zone out and just slam the 5 key without having to do anything else other than jolt and assist. Auto-fire would be great, but that would make me seem lazy when it looks like I work hard. So no auto-fire please.
The only thing that I would LOVE to see is a +10 damage aug for Swiftshot. Bows are so hard to come by, and us no-alt rangers like myself would really, really love you guys if you'd pass us the bacon. Or maybe just drizzle a little grease on a plate so we can smell it.
No auto-fire please, just more accessible good ratio fast bows. That's what rangers really need.
Edit: Oh yeah, forgot to add a few things. There's a few bows out there with insane procs on them, that no ranger would use if they knew what they were doing and were left with any alternative. Bows that AOE, knock-back, teleport you, these are all bad things. A bow that does a memory flux would also be a horrible thing to have. Stun procs, blinds, anything that draws aggro, hits more than one mob, moves the mob, nukes the ranger, these are bad, bad things. DD procs, atk buffs, dot procs, - these are awesome. Thanks!
Dzillon
Dalayan Master
On a side note I don't see why an arrow would do insane damage compared to a fat axe for example. But back on topic.
Why couln't it be possible to be able to autofire when hitting Autoattack IF the bow is in the primary hand (well 2H) ? Course it would imply to make bows 2H something... but doesn't it make sense that one can use a bow only with free hand ? I realize this makes all the point of a Range slot useless, but I never understood why you could keep weapons on and use a bow realistically.
That way people could switch weapons if they only autofire and lose all stat benefits. Maybe they couldn't use the range slot when a bow is in hand to even increase the focus on the bow, dunno it sounds silly and may not even be feasible but well...
Why couln't it be possible to be able to autofire when hitting Autoattack IF the bow is in the primary hand (well 2H) ? Course it would imply to make bows 2H something... but doesn't it make sense that one can use a bow only with free hand ? I realize this makes all the point of a Range slot useless, but I never understood why you could keep weapons on and use a bow realistically.
That way people could switch weapons if they only autofire and lose all stat benefits. Maybe they couldn't use the range slot when a bow is in hand to even increase the focus on the bow, dunno it sounds silly and may not even be feasible but well...
Is there another class that suffers DPS-wise more than a ranger when it comes to trying to type out a sentence mid-fight?
I've said over and over that I wouldn't want a permanent auto-fire that will reduce dps, but rather a simple command that will auto-fire the next 3-5 plinks to simulate the type of delay that any rogue/nuker would have between backstab and cooldown.
I've said over and over that I wouldn't want a permanent auto-fire that will reduce dps, but rather a simple command that will auto-fire the next 3-5 plinks to simulate the type of delay that any rogue/nuker would have between backstab and cooldown.
Llanoldar Lluindar
Dalayan Beginner
Finkk said:
Hey, do what I do and make a key that doesn't output text as a secondary key for whatever slot your range attack is in.
I use f12. This is how I can type and use archery at the same time. Half the problem solved right there.
You people are all not as smart as me :hmph:
Manluas
Dalayan Elder
Ponden said:Man Llanoldar, do you have 3 hands or something? F12!?syduck:
Spamming F12 with my right hand, and trying to type out a message with my left only does not sound like a solution.
Not that hard tbh - can easily type and hit F12 meanwhile, just takes a tad longer then w/o hitting another key inbetween.
Llanoldar Lluindar
Dalayan Beginner
Ponden said:Man Llanoldar, do you have 3 hands or something? F12!?
Spamming F12 with my right hand, and trying to type out a message with my left only does not sound like a solution.
Right hand: Middle finger on f12, use thumb and index for enter, /, ', shifting, backspace etc.
Letters and numbers with left hand. Just takes practice.
Or you could just type really fast between shots.