Monk Parses
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If anything I think 1hers should do more dps than 2hers.
2her is better for tanking, is better for aggro control ( i know for monks its easy, but for other classes it's a boon to have a 2her over 1hers, it's less aggro ), and it's only one item.
1hers give you more ripostses, are more aggro, and you've got to have 2 great 1hers for them to be better than a 2her.
2her is better for tanking, is better for aggro control ( i know for monks its easy, but for other classes it's a boon to have a 2her over 1hers, it's less aggro ), and it's only one item.
1hers give you more ripostses, are more aggro, and you've got to have 2 great 1hers for them to be better than a 2her.
I completely agree with this. Using 1handers you take far more damage from ripostes, have a much larger chance of pulling aggro, and basically put yourself through a meat grinder on anything with a DS. (yeah, i know, easily dispelled, whatever)Zhak said:
Having the best weapon for a monk being a 2hander that can be used by every melee class, rather than some specialized h2h weapons is seriously disappointing.
I'm not asking for the log, I'm asking for his specific parses for that fight. Or other fights, as it stands Draxx's parses are the most accurate that we have currently. Because is a 2 min duration fight as a bard I can pull of about 600 dps. Although if I extend that fight over the period of lets say 30 mins, I'm going to end up with low end 200 dps. So if you wish to make a decient argument to this subject, please feel free to find your own parses of longer duration fights. I would say anything lower then 15 mins would be exempt as they can give inaccurate records.Widan said:
If you have these and want to post them for reference I'm sure Draxx, myself and everyone else viewing this would be more then happy to see your results if your doing 350-400 dps. Thank you.
The entire point of this post is "Are 1hnders in line with 2hnders" not "Monks dont do enough damage".
If you are going to be a troll at least read what you are supposed to be trolling.
Back on the topic, from what I understand from Wiz quotes (in my head mind you) is that 2hnders are for DPS and 1hnders are for stats. Looking at the current 2hnder stats it seems like that has not been kept up but a clarification on what type of combat should do more or less DPS would be helpful.
If you are going to be a troll at least read what you are supposed to be trolling.
Back on the topic, from what I understand from Wiz quotes (in my head mind you) is that 2hnders are for DPS and 1hnders are for stats. Looking at the current 2hnder stats it seems like that has not been kept up but a clarification on what type of combat should do more or less DPS would be helpful.
Not entirely relevant to this thread but I'd like to add my support for 1h weapons out DPSing 2h weapons. Currently in game 2h is always the way to go unless you are tanking (or don't have the option). Stat wise, DPS wise and aggro wise, 2h wins every time.
As for FD relating to DPS, bare in mind almost every class has some aggro modifier that, by using it, at least slightly reduces their DPS. In that respect, and considering how great FD is for dropping aggro, it's quite a separate discussion and really ought not be brought up in a pure DPS discussion thread.
As for FD relating to DPS, bare in mind almost every class has some aggro modifier that, by using it, at least slightly reduces their DPS. In that respect, and considering how great FD is for dropping aggro, it's quite a separate discussion and really ought not be brought up in a pure DPS discussion thread.
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I was more referring to the fact that you have to FD less often with 2 h'ers, and more often with 1 h'ers, which effectively reduces the dps of 1 h'ers even further. I thought it was pertinent.
If you think that 1 handers should have better stats and dps (to make up for the downsides of say, having to acquire two instead of 1, having to eat ripostes, pulling aggro, having to FD more often), then what do you think the dps difference should look like between these two particular sets of weapons, keeping in mind the 2 hander is from a higher tier?
If you think that 1 handers should have better stats and dps (to make up for the downsides of say, having to acquire two instead of 1, having to eat ripostes, pulling aggro, having to FD more often), then what do you think the dps difference should look like between these two particular sets of weapons, keeping in mind the 2 hander is from a higher tier?
I really cant imagine FD lowering dps by anything substantial. Your out of a 5 -10 min fight for what? 5 seconds total? (5 fds?) Thats just a estimation. I mean, maybe you FD more... But we are not talking about long periods of time that your attack is off.
Not to mention delay still recharges while auto attack is off?
Im definitely in favor of single weapons doing more dps then 2h for the reasons stated above by zhak. I also play a rogue so, I cant use 2h at all and I am biased.
I was trying to think over what difference would make sense and basically they need to be comparable (as in, 1h does idk, 5% more? Not alot).
But because the weapons in question come from different difficulties - that means the 2h should come out ahead. But assuming the weapons all come from same tier - the 1h should come out ahead or at least be equal.
Not to mention delay still recharges while auto attack is off?
Im definitely in favor of single weapons doing more dps then 2h for the reasons stated above by zhak. I also play a rogue so, I cant use 2h at all and I am biased.
I was trying to think over what difference would make sense and basically they need to be comparable (as in, 1h does idk, 5% more? Not alot).
But because the weapons in question come from different difficulties - that means the 2h should come out ahead. But assuming the weapons all come from same tier - the 1h should come out ahead or at least be equal.
Not getting in to the specifics of the parses here, esp' as they're from diff tiers etc, in regards to 1h vs 2h.
It's just a general thing. 1h < 2h for same-tier weapons. DPS wise, stats wise, -aggro wise (tanks excluded).
The fact that you need to mitigate more aggro using 1h vs 2h should simply reinforce the idea that 1h should be greater than 2h for same-tier weapons. Where the balance is :shrug: - it must be relative to lots of other factors most of us presumably don't have access to the statistics of. (Presumably staff/Wiz have an idea of desired DPS impact of a tier upgrade of a weapon, for example).
It's just a general thing. 1h < 2h for same-tier weapons. DPS wise, stats wise, -aggro wise (tanks excluded).
The fact that you need to mitigate more aggro using 1h vs 2h should simply reinforce the idea that 1h should be greater than 2h for same-tier weapons. Where the balance is :shrug: - it must be relative to lots of other factors most of us presumably don't have access to the statistics of. (Presumably staff/Wiz have an idea of desired DPS impact of a tier upgrade of a weapon, for example).