LOL I love this club...
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Ashleigh666
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Wiz said:
i second that...
:/
JayelleNephilim
"Helpy Helper"
Waldoff said:
Manluas
Dalayan Elder
I had one discussion about religion in my entire life (which is pretty short, I give you that but 7 years as an acolythe give you plenty of time to discuss this). I figured out a while ago, that discussions about religion won't led to anything in the most cases since someone is more or less bound to defend his point of view in any possible way which sooner or later will lead to people bashing each other around.
Hence I tend to avoid such discussions or I will break it down to claim my point of view and make clear that I don't care if it's ok with people or not.
Hence I tend to avoid such discussions or I will break it down to claim my point of view and make clear that I don't care if it's ok with people or not.
Its one of those things were neither side is going to convince each other. The only people it truly effects are the spectators who are on the fence and are listening in.
That being said I dont think this particular thread will even have that effect. I doubt that any of even the most religious people here would agree with this idiot. I could be wrong though I suppose.
EDIT- Except JoeMeyer. But he aint reading this anymore!
That being said I dont think this particular thread will even have that effect. I doubt that any of even the most religious people here would agree with this idiot. I could be wrong though I suppose.
EDIT- Except JoeMeyer. But he aint reading this anymore!
Interesting is one thing: you criticise religion and people (religious people that is) are hurt in their religious feelings. As soon as you tell those very same persons that you are an atheist it's ok for them to slam you down and wish you'd burn in hell. No problem for me cause there's no hell, but i think you get it.
Religion is bad. In a perfect world, noone needs it.
Religion is bad. In a perfect world, noone needs it.
JoeMeyer said:
Notice the plethora of evidence given to back this inane claim.
The best part of arguing over religion is the complete lack of evidence the religious side gives. They link science and religion and when science says "Okay... how?" religion says "Because".
Sorry to break it to you but that is not how science works. If you want to believe whatever you want I could care less but trying to say that science and religion are linked in some sort of unobservable way is asinine and insulting to what science is in the first place.
The best way to make an atheist is to read the bible.
When I was 12-13 I learned Hebrew specifically to be able to read the first testament in its original language. You are absolutely wrong.
Thats why I am an atheist in the first place. The entire thing is full of inconsistency and contradictory statements. Not to mention the grip of morally dubious things it tells you to do.
I can tell you for a fact that there is no real science in the Bible. You keep pointing at people and saying "you just dont know what your talking about" instead of proving them wrong. Show us some real evidence/quotes from this surprising amount of biblical science.
When I was 12-13 I learned Hebrew specifically to be able to read the first testament in its original language. You are absolutely wrong.
Thats why I am an atheist in the first place. The entire thing is full of inconsistency and contradictory statements. Not to mention the grip of morally dubious things it tells you to do.
I can tell you for a fact that there is no real science in the Bible. You keep pointing at people and saying "you just dont know what your talking about" instead of proving them wrong. Show us some real evidence/quotes from this surprising amount of biblical science.
iaeolan
Dalayan Elder
JoeMeyer said:
There may be a lot of scientific phenomenon mentioned in the bible, sure. There isn't anything that can give biblical accounts scientific plausibility to prove there was divine forces acting, though. This is in fact the definition of faith, like I posted before. It is fruitless to try and prove faith and, as i recall, is also blasphemy.
misin
Teletubby Cosplayer
Waldoff said:
Thats why my mother became Muslim as well (not athiest). Athiests are just lazy people who have given up after seeing to much BS that people blindly follow...
. Do the same with the Quran and i'm sure you'll have a different view about it, but now that you're no longer looking i highly doubt that will happen. (PROVE ME WRONG!) Learning arabic has helped me a ton in understand the Quran, and has allowed me to feel the guidance coming from it, unlike watered down thrice translated stuff.Feel free to flame
iaeolan
Dalayan Elder
Wiz said:What exactly is a "scientific phenomenon"
phenomena that can be explained by science? :what:
shit that is easily documented but not explained in scripture. contains science, does not explain science.
Sounds like Joe is saying the bible contains science when it just contained events and occurrences which can be found in a middle school earth science text. A simplistic view of nature and collectively calling it science due to misunderstanding of both nature and science by the person making the claim.