Handwraps of the Tranquil

[jedz]

There may be a problem, Tranquil Focus will only proc on a bare fist. Making it sorta useless.

 

[Haruto]

Isn't that the way they worked on live too?

 

[jedz]

yes, but no monk is going to go bare fisted for a proc that takes who knows how long. maybe a different type of effect is in order.

 

[robopirateninja]

He's saying the problem is that at the tier you acquire these glove no monk should be using bare fists because weapons with much better ratios/stats drop.

For this to be balanced the proc would have to equal the increase in stats/dps from going bare fists>weapons, and I'm going to guess it doesn't.

 

[volvov2]

Unless it has a 25% or higher proc rate, it wouldn't make up for the dps loss from switching out a weapon (proc is 300 attack for one (1) tick).

 

[Korra]

Works with eagle strike and tiger claw and stuff tho I guess.. but flying kick is cooler :dumb:

 

[jedz]

i unequiped my weapons to try it out. 1 tick is like a little more than an instant, if im lucky ill get 2 or 3 punches in before it wears off .. if it goes off in between attacks it does not last long enough to stay the next round of attacks meaning it does nothing at all. Pretty gimp.

 

[Eldorath]

yeah when they make it one tick, it depends where the server is at in terms of the tick. So it can last from basically 0-6 seconds.

 

[Dzillon]

1 tick sounds ridiculous indeed ; even if the proc is awesome. And yeah when you get those gloves I guess you don't bother using fist.
Nevertheless gloves will always proc on bare fists so there's a choice to make...only solution is to increase the durton, maybe 5 ticks for 30 secs ? And does this proc stack with everything ?

 

[Spiritplx]

Could this be made to proc on all hand to hand weapons instead of just bare fists? I think that would be a fair solution for a procs like these.

 

[Jun]

It will also proc on Dragon Punch/Tail Rake, Tiger Claw and Eagle Strike. I'm not saying it shouldn't be looked at, but it could still be a little more helpful if youre using one of those attacks while tanking or something... hope that helps some.

 

[Tempus]

Could this be made to proc on all hand to hand weapons instead of just bare fists? I think that would be a fair solution for a procs like these.

Another approach would be to add some magical/elemental dmg to the gloves to get the ratio of the bare fists more appropriate for the tier.

 

[Korra]

It would have to be something like 10 elemental damage to make them worth considering and judging from the lack of action on my thread to get the COD gloves elemental damage upgraded above that of the Starfall I can't see it happening

 

[Jun]

Would regular damage on them be overpowering? I dont see why bare fists shouldnt be brought in line with one handers of the same tier for the trade off of weapon stats.

 

[Tempus]

Would regular damage on them be overpowering? I dont see why bare fists shouldnt be brought in line with one handers of the same tier for the trade off of weapon stats.

It is my understanding that magical / elemental damage has a wicked negative resist modifier ( I don't know the exact details, but TM has said that before).

 

[ryutakin]

Could this be made to proc on all hand to hand weapons instead of just bare fists? I think that would be a fair solution for a procs like these.

I'm still wondering this

 

[jedz]

For losing upwards of 100k charm like stats, the tradeoff for using barefists would need to be pretty large. I don't know if it's worth trying to balance something like that. Another effect would be sufficient, preferably something creative.

 

[Thinkmeats]

It is my understanding that magical / elemental damage has a wicked negative resist modifier ( I don't know the exact details, but TM has said that before).

They do indeed, and players are definitely dumb about ele damage--simply assuming that it sucks without doing any actual testing or parsing whatsoever since the resist mod was changed from "0" to "- a lot"--but I really do not think that dumping a buttload of elemental damage onto gloves is the solution here. It just strikes me as really clunky.

As for these gloves in specific, you'll probably have to wait until we get a chance to look over thaz items as a whole before this gets fixed. There are too many broken things to pop them one a time; better to just do them all at once.

 

[ryutakin]

Just a suggestion, why not instead of trying to mess with a proc add DMG inc 6/7. Or some sort of valiance(to not mimic bst gloves)

Just to throw it out there...

 

[Andorraa]

There is already Valiance 8 on the Headband of the Tranquil. Honestly, in my opinion there should be a skill mod like riposte on those gloves. A proc like that is worthless, because a monk using bare fists at this tier is either insane or likes to be the main tank after 10 percent of the fight. Monk aggro is insane, which is why I refuse to use anything except a 2-hander. Even that pulls aggro off of tanks syduck: