Hammer of Dark Worship

Rambler

Dalayan Beginner
I recently attained the weapon in the title, and was wondering if the dmg / dly ratio could be examined. When compared to a few monk items from different tiers, it seems a bit under powered.



I couldn't attain a pic of the Crimson Fistwrap of Wrecking at the time of this post, but will get one later for comparison. But currently, a weapon dropping from a lower tiered zone, a mob doable by 14 people (or less), drops a better weapon than a mob done with 18, which must be more competent, pay more attention, and have overall better equipment.

Another item which I wonder at, is the Crimson Fistwrap of Wrecking. It drops in NDHK, a very easy zone at this point, but when faction bound, has the same ratio. Again, do not have a picture of the faction bound item at the time of this post.

If there's any explanation, please let me know. This weapon is just slightly better than the Wildstrike Baton, off of a much much much much easier mob, and that proc is unresistable, and the Baton has more stats that are monk friendly.

Also, while looking at the item, the weight is not so much of a problem but may consider a review? Monks currently lack a nice 1handed weapon after the Needle-Fist from Gibber. I know PoW has a 1hb, which I believe has the same stats as this (14/19, correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't spent much time in there, just remember it being linked on the wiki), and of course that weapon is also as undesirable as this, due to the ease that Gibber can be downed, and the relative niceness of the Wildstrike Baton and Crimson Fist.

Any feedback as to why the item has the current stats are welcome, I merely hope that this item can be raised to be more in-line with the risk of the encounter. I forgot to mention that the encounter is in Sepulcher, off of a duo of mobs that require two well equipped tanks, and essentially six well equipped healers. Unlike Gibber, and of course Cilz (it's been so long, I believe she drops the Fistwrap).
 
This will be reviewed in the item cabal tonight. I agree that its a bit out of the progression.
 
I forgot to mention that before Wardfist and after Needlefist, monks lack a nice progressive 1hb/h2h weapon. While we have a nice variety in terms of 2handed weapons (Xav stick / motg) there's nothing that can compare to the dps of them.

Also, I apologize for the jumpiness of the original post, but writing and raiding at the same time makes me nuts.
 
Rambler said:
I forgot to mention that before Wardfist and after Needlefist, monks lack a nice progressive 1hb/h2h weapon. While we have a nice variety in terms of 2handed weapons (Xav stick / motg) there's nothing that can compare to the dps of them.

I am not 100% sure if this is true. Other than the shameless *Theres a 1hnb in powater!!!!* there is also the Misery h2h and the stick from Rymaz.
 
There's actually a monk weapon out of Sepulcher too. And yes, this item, and the other items on the spouses in general could use a review. It's been long overdue too, to be completely honest.
 
I read your post wrong. I thought you meant BEFORE needlefist.


Yeah the biggest one in between is the one in sepulcher. Jinxat used that one for a while.
 
Xeldan said:
There's actually a monk weapon out of Sepulcher too. And yes, this item, and the other items on the spouses in general could use a review. It's been long overdue too, to be completely honest.

I was missing for a lot of Sepulcher kills, so I don't know the full itemization of the zone. Honestly, I didn't know this weapon existed up until we killed it this evening (afternoon, for me, etc).

Does anyone have a fomelo to someone using the monk weapon from Sepulcher that Xeldan's speaking of?
 
Rambler said:
I was missing for a lot of Sepulcher kills, so I don't know the full itemization of the zone. Honestly, I didn't know this weapon existed up until we killed it this evening (afternoon, for me, etc).

Does anyone have a fomelo to someone using the monk weapon from Sepulcher that Xeldan's speaking of?

Pretty sure no one is using it right now, it was good though, junius used it and wardfist for a while. I remember the proc was Boom of Chaos, I dunno if anyone else has the stats. Its off of DOTO.
 
Eldorath said:
Pretty sure no one is using it right now, it was good though, junius used it and wardfist for a while. I remember the proc was Boom of Chaos, I dunno if anyone else has the stats. Its off of DOTO.

Interesting, thanks. Hopefully someone can link it, or I'll look around on the wiki.
 
Gtoo was kind enough to get some links:

Fist of Chaos
PRIMARY SECONDARY
17/21
Effect: Boom of Chaos(Combat)
STR +15 HP +100 MANA +75
WT 0.3
 
Fist of Chaos + Wardfist > Motg / Xavera for dps. Even if only slightly.

Its only better if you have all the h2h melee dps aas though. If not I am fairly certain that it would fall far behind in dps.
 
Jinxat said:
Fist of Chaos + Wardfist > Motg / Xavera for dps. Even if only slightly.

Its only better if you have all the h2h melee dps aas though. If not I am fairly certain that it would fall far behind in dps.

It should be much better considering Wardfist drops off of Taeshlin, and Fist of Chaos off a harder encounter than couples. Can't really compare MoTG since to get to him is the hard part (and not the encounter itself).
 
Rambler said:
It should be much better considering Wardfist drops off of Taeshlin, and Fist of Chaos off a harder encounter than couples. Can't really compare MoTG since to get to him is the hard part (and not the encounter itself).

I fully agree with you. The h2h vs 2h for monks is most often skewed to be in favor of the 2h. I myself always prefered to use h2h, but it seems that more often than not better dps comes from 2handers.
 
Jinxat said:
I fully agree with you. The h2h vs 2h for monks is most often skewed to be in favor of the 2h. I myself always prefered to use h2h, but it seems that more often than not better dps comes from 2handers.

Which should be reversed since using 2hb in combat as an aux dramatically reduces the riposte damage you take. I don't think I had used 1hb/h2h until just recently after attaining the hammer, while I was auxing, and after doing so, I switched back promptly to my 2hb. There's no viable reason to use one handed weapons when their 2 handed brethren do more damage, and aux tank far better. Mind you if I didn't have to aux tank, the choice wouldn't be so obvious.
 
Rambler said:
Which should be reversed since using 2hb in combat as an aux dramatically reduces the riposte damage you take. I don't think I had used 1hb/h2h until just recently after attaining the hammer, while I was auxing, and after doing so, I switched back promptly to my 2hb. There's no viable reason to use one handed weapons when their 2 handed brethren do more damage, and aux tank far better. Mind you if I didn't have to aux tank, the choice wouldn't be so obvious.

/agree
 
JayelleNephilim said:
It hasn't been patched in yet, no.

I assume there will be a big announcement? I'm just more than curious about what's going to change. Should be interesting.
 
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