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I don't really Dual Client, except to play someone else's character when needed on a raid.
I don't like the idea of dual clienting. I don't like having to sit around while someone struggles to log on their second character. I don't like wiping because someone can't give one character the attention needed.
That being said, I realize how hard it can be to solo, and how unrewarding it is. I'm a wizard, and at times, with current resists and mob HP, I find it very difficult to solo anything relevant.
I would be intensely frustrated playing a cleric solo from 1 to 60. The likelihood of groups at many levels can be sort of rare.
Now I was fortunate, and via events (See Anniversary) I managed to shoot through my lower 20s. Then at around level 30 or so, I managed to get a spectacular group in First Ruins and make about ten levels in a single night. Then, again, because I had a level 60 friend who could solo very well, I did pretty well in my 40s as well.
Post 50, however, I leveled pretty quickly up until 54, when I started to completely try and group under my own power, and got all my XP from raids.
I completely see the merit, and, from a logical standpoint, agree with ending Dual Clienting. At the same time, from a player standpoint, I see a necessity for it.
Lack of grouping and the sort is just one reason we see such a lack of certain classes, like druids, who don't shine very well in raid situations.
If a lot of this doesn't make sense, it's because I'm very tired, and forgot what I was trying to say.
I don't like the idea of dual clienting. I don't like having to sit around while someone struggles to log on their second character. I don't like wiping because someone can't give one character the attention needed.
That being said, I realize how hard it can be to solo, and how unrewarding it is. I'm a wizard, and at times, with current resists and mob HP, I find it very difficult to solo anything relevant.
I would be intensely frustrated playing a cleric solo from 1 to 60. The likelihood of groups at many levels can be sort of rare.
Now I was fortunate, and via events (See Anniversary) I managed to shoot through my lower 20s. Then at around level 30 or so, I managed to get a spectacular group in First Ruins and make about ten levels in a single night. Then, again, because I had a level 60 friend who could solo very well, I did pretty well in my 40s as well.
Post 50, however, I leveled pretty quickly up until 54, when I started to completely try and group under my own power, and got all my XP from raids.
I completely see the merit, and, from a logical standpoint, agree with ending Dual Clienting. At the same time, from a player standpoint, I see a necessity for it.
Lack of grouping and the sort is just one reason we see such a lack of certain classes, like druids, who don't shine very well in raid situations.
If a lot of this doesn't make sense, it's because I'm very tired, and forgot what I was trying to say.
banning is a bad idea, i DC most of the time, but when i have a group situation i drop a character, either the healer or tank, depending on the group situation because i know it could cause problems. thing is i often only get 30min or less to play, and all i want to do is get some quick XP. its not really fair to get a group going, or join one, get somewhere decent and then have to log, so i just DC for a bit. it should be a choice made by the players, based on the situation. i for one always tell my group im dcing, and ask if they mind...if they do i lose a char or if i must i stay out of the group.
JBenison
Dalayan Beginner
I would REALLY consider retiring if dual was removed. I played dual characters in live for 3 years, I've been playing two characters here since the beginning... and I am used to it.
I DO group... daily. I prefer the company of others.
I DO PL my characters with my higher levels.
Actually it is not unbalancing to have two characters, since generally you would get much better xp in a group.
The only valid reason for removing it is bandwidth... and server capacity.
Please do not remove it.
I DO group... daily. I prefer the company of others.
I DO PL my characters with my higher levels.
Actually it is not unbalancing to have two characters, since generally you would get much better xp in a group.
The only valid reason for removing it is bandwidth... and server capacity.
Please do not remove it.
2 reasons why it should be permitted to DC:
1. Server at some of my playing hours has 15 or less ppl playing = half of them under lvl 30 half (my chars is 57 and 60) or wrong class to make a grp. Ever tried to solo with a 57 cleric? Or a 57 warr? Sure it can be done but xp is so bad its not even worth the time.
2. Our guild Valhall has about 20-25 members (maybe 30 i dunno atm) or should i say characters, DCing is not an option its a must to raid, even with 7 or so clerics in guild i sometimes end up solo cleric or have 1 assisting cler. So no DCing would be the end of our guild i guess.
1. Server at some of my playing hours has 15 or less ppl playing = half of them under lvl 30 half (my chars is 57 and 60) or wrong class to make a grp. Ever tried to solo with a 57 cleric? Or a 57 warr? Sure it can be done but xp is so bad its not even worth the time.
2. Our guild Valhall has about 20-25 members (maybe 30 i dunno atm) or should i say characters, DCing is not an option its a must to raid, even with 7 or so clerics in guild i sometimes end up solo cleric or have 1 assisting cler. So no DCing would be the end of our guild i guess.
I had to make a second reply to this.
I DC all the time (basicly), and I'm proud that I can handle both my chars perfectly, sure I lag at times so my war dies (and then clr dies as a result of that). Ask ANYONE that has grouped with me if I don't pay enough attention on my clr even that I'm maintank with my war. Lately I've been liveing in DN and I get asked allmost every time if I have room for more. I allmost every day get a full group in DN and more people asking if they could join me. I allways accept people who wants to join my group, no matter what class they are, doesn't matter if a level 40 druid askes me, if I have room he/she can join me. And if DC gets removed I will stop playing, finding a group now when I'm 60 isn't that hard but that's because I have a good reputation I guess. I play my war as my main because it's more fun to be in the action than to be a passive healer. I got recruited into GotW because of my clr (I guess) so if I'm in a raid I focus 100% on my clr to keep the main tank alive and just move my war to the mob and hit autoattack IF I have time. Oh well, now I'm just babbling so I stop typeing now. I just wanted to say that don't remove DC, and that I know where to put my focus if I DC, even that I DC don't make me a bad player in a raid situation, I know where to put my focus so I don't miss a heal in a CCH chain.
I DC all the time (basicly), and I'm proud that I can handle both my chars perfectly, sure I lag at times so my war dies (and then clr dies as a result of that). Ask ANYONE that has grouped with me if I don't pay enough attention on my clr even that I'm maintank with my war. Lately I've been liveing in DN and I get asked allmost every time if I have room for more. I allmost every day get a full group in DN and more people asking if they could join me. I allways accept people who wants to join my group, no matter what class they are, doesn't matter if a level 40 druid askes me, if I have room he/she can join me. And if DC gets removed I will stop playing, finding a group now when I'm 60 isn't that hard but that's because I have a good reputation I guess. I play my war as my main because it's more fun to be in the action than to be a passive healer. I got recruited into GotW because of my clr (I guess) so if I'm in a raid I focus 100% on my clr to keep the main tank alive and just move my war to the mob and hit autoattack IF I have time. Oh well, now I'm just babbling so I stop typeing now. I just wanted to say that don't remove DC, and that I know where to put my focus if I DC, even that I DC don't make me a bad player in a raid situation, I know where to put my focus so I don't miss a heal in a CCH chain.
karm100fists
Dalayan Beginner
I started DCing after I soloed/grouped to level 10 and couldn't kill blue mobs on my own.
I made a cleric and a warrior and leveled them up to 10 together then grouped the cleric with my monk and kept on rollin. I have been able to get a level on one of my toons almost each time I log on now, and it makes me MUCH happier.
Please don't take away DC. I do group with people when I can and I'm getting to be good with my cleric (although I do still die every once in a while when I get more then two adds.
The most important reason to keep dcing is though, is that it makes smart players! Playing two classes makes everyone more aware of balance issues and feel less strictly loyal to their class and more in touch with other's classes.
I'm glad I can two box here and I hope to get really good at it before I hit 40 or so
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I made a cleric and a warrior and leveled them up to 10 together then grouped the cleric with my monk and kept on rollin. I have been able to get a level on one of my toons almost each time I log on now, and it makes me MUCH happier.
Please don't take away DC. I do group with people when I can and I'm getting to be good with my cleric (although I do still die every once in a while when I get more then two adds.
The most important reason to keep dcing is though, is that it makes smart players! Playing two classes makes everyone more aware of balance issues and feel less strictly loyal to their class and more in touch with other's classes.
I'm glad I can two box here and I hope to get really good at it before I hit 40 or so
.figured id throw my 2cp in. i just started WR a bit ago. i DC. and ive found if very helpful. i came with a friend and he plays a chanter. i have a cleric and a ranger. at this point if it was removed i would have a very hard time.
that being said, i really only DC because it makes the groups happen fast. i am working real hard to get to higher lvls and offer a guild my time. DC is making it possible for me not to solo my way to 60. and i like that.
once i get to higher lvls ill probly shelf the ranger, sence it seems there is a lack of "real" clerics. but for me to get there DCing has helped alot
DCing and my friends chanter is the start of a nice group, i find i see alot of classes that arnt part of the "holy trinity" and sence i can supply a melee and a healer, i bring my group with me. thus dropping my downtime
one of the biggest things in eq that always bothered me was lfg. i have found a new home here. and i have to say i admire what yall are doing, thank you for your selfless efforts to make a somewhat over game new and fresh and fun. my buddy and i are having more fun than i ever did in EQ. you guys are the best
that being said, i really only DC because it makes the groups happen fast. i am working real hard to get to higher lvls and offer a guild my time. DC is making it possible for me not to solo my way to 60. and i like that.
once i get to higher lvls ill probly shelf the ranger, sence it seems there is a lack of "real" clerics. but for me to get there DCing has helped alot
DCing and my friends chanter is the start of a nice group, i find i see alot of classes that arnt part of the "holy trinity" and sence i can supply a melee and a healer, i bring my group with me. thus dropping my downtime
one of the biggest things in eq that always bothered me was lfg. i have found a new home here. and i have to say i admire what yall are doing, thank you for your selfless efforts to make a somewhat over game new and fresh and fun. my buddy and i are having more fun than i ever did in EQ. you guys are the best
I was dcing for a short while, and then I got tired of the characters, a shaman and a warrior. I always wanted to DC because of the fact that is so hard to find groups at all times, and with a class like a warrior, who needs a healer behind him most of the times, it would be a nightmare for me to solo one of those classes who need groups.
About the fact that, yes, DCing provides self-supplying, making one not needing other people because you have the "perfect duo", it depends, because its reall more fun when you are playing with one char and in a group, so if you dc 2 chars all your life to high levels, when you need to do some teamwork like in raids, you are going to have some problems because you didnt group in since you created the characters and thus you will be a poor player in the team-work aspect.
I would DC only when im trying to make a cleric/warrior or the such, not when im using a class that's good at soloing
Well, those were my 2cp... or should I say 2pp for the lenght of the post?
About the fact that, yes, DCing provides self-supplying, making one not needing other people because you have the "perfect duo", it depends, because its reall more fun when you are playing with one char and in a group, so if you dc 2 chars all your life to high levels, when you need to do some teamwork like in raids, you are going to have some problems because you didnt group in since you created the characters
and thus you will be a poor player in the team-work aspect.I would DC only when im trying to make a cleric/warrior or the such, not when im using a class that's good at soloing
Well, those were my 2cp... or should I say 2pp for the lenght of the post?
I can see why I lot of people dc. There just aren't a lot of people on WR as compared to live. The under 60 population isn't large and the world is pretty big. (and getting bigger). Sometimes people don't want to travel 6 zones and 30 minutes just to meet up with a group for a half-hour. Some people want to play classes that just aren't viable solo'ers. DC is great for these type of people.
Arkalin said:DC? How the heck you guys get away with that???
My wife barely allows me to get on one computer without getting mad let alone two???
errr, sorry to tell you, but you use 1 computer to DC with 2 eqwindows at the same time, 2 different accounts, that's how it usually works
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