Bards have a resist buff and spell shield song that is REQUIRED to do some fights reasonably on tier, the potential to do good dps if played properly (Bellows+song twisting+maximizing on melee dps etc), a raidwide dps increase, a tome that lets them flurry for big melee deeps, a tome that gives them a bonus to burst on a mob under 15% (nearly every single crucial burn phase, flute nukes anyone?) , Jaylas mob strategy guide, a little added utility, the ability to offtank, a groupwide DA, the best runspeed buff, tracking, a faction buff that makes getting some gate necks way easier, easy access to chaotic hits. Oh yeah, the best part is, is that alot of these things have really high upkeep time. Remember all that Crescendo flute nuking/bellowing you did earlier? Yeah, you even have a tome to let you regen the mana back faster. Bards dont even need an entire raid to do unleash their ridiculous potential either, which is the only reason they are even comparable in power to enchanters.
TLDR; Anyone who doesnt realize the potential a well played bard/enchanter/most other classes have is terrible
Clerics have an HP buff that is required to do fights on tier
Sham have a slow that is required to do fights on tier
Ench have a mana regen and haste that is required
Tanks are required
DPS are required
ect ect
Lots of classes are required to kill things, thats why you form a raid, just because a bard is needed on some fights means nothing and was not my point at all.
Its really simple but as you dont play a bard its understandable that you dont see my point.
Bards get 3 charm spells, a lvl 27, 39 and 65
Our lvl 39 charm is better than our runic 1 in refresh time, duration, resist adjust and actually has some function because its recast is shorter than its duration. Our "upgrade" is useless because anything you charm will break after 42sec and you will be unable to recharm it for 2 min. Our runic 1 is a downgrade to a lvl 39 spell.
A lvl 65 ruinc is worse than a lvl 39 spell. This has nothing to do with raid buffs or w/e you keep wanting to drag into this conversation.
Bellows are all identical in the line, increase in level = increase in dmg and mana cost. This holds true all the way till the lvl 65 one which randomly requires an instrument. By the time you get this spell you have worn instrument mods meaning you would never swap in a flute but it is required.
Instead of being an upgrade that replaces the need for loading 2-3 bellows(does anyone else have to use level 55 and lower spells as a main dps spell on raids?) its largely unused. The dmg/mana cost ratio is not really any better than lower level bellows it just lets us dump our mana with 1 spell instead of 3. Why should we have to use low level spells when we finally get a lvl 65 "upgrade"? By t9/10 our mana pool as increased quite a bit from a fresh 65 and a better bellow makes perfect sense.
Stop listing all the stuff bards can do and acting like we do all of it at the same time. To do "big flurry dps" we have to be playing a GROUP ONLY haste that is not as good as goe aka never played in a raid unless you have 3 bards. No one raids with 3 bards, if they were as awesome as you make them out to be why does no one use more than 1, sometimes 2? To give mots/pot4 we are not boosting dps. To do fiery/pot4 we are not regening mana ect. Bards are versatile but limited in how much we can do at once, that is how they are balanced.(and the mana regen/spell dmg doesn't even work on ourselves)
Jaylas is often wrong
Ofensive magic: no
Innate magic: no
buffing magic: no
mob proceeds to do nothing but nuke, heal and buff, thanks jayla for all of that insight. And someone has posted a jaylas printout on a lot of mobs wiki pages, now everyone can enjoy our AA with a simple search and no AA cost!
Bards are good but not so good that all of our spells after relics need to be unusable.
As for other peoples runics being useless idk, they can make their own threads, power to them, I think for all the work runics take to get that they should be good spells for every class but i do have exp with druids and enc and have to say vim and cata are insane and if you have a problem with bard dps vs utility you have no idea what druids can do even after cata's nerf. Aod is awesome.
