Bane spells aren't worth it

[robopirateninja]

it'd have the chance to eliminate some of the weaker mobs attacking your party, and it'd draw the remaining mobs on you. as it is, i often find myself scratching my head when i bother to use consecrate, being like, "that was supposed to do something?"

How do you not notice a 2k nuke on all your targets?

 

[vistachiri]

I feel that adjusting the resist to -50 or more would still not make it that much more worth using a spellgem for. As a druid, I can already cast a 1.5k base dmg Wrath of the Skies spell (+ damage increment 5 = 1.9k), which isnt even relic and still get better dps. On summoned targets, I rarely go to the trouble to unmem one of my DD's and mem disposement just for the purpose of kiling the mob - Wrath of the Skies does the trick anyway.

Since Wrath of the Skies seems to never resist in the first place, I just don't feel like adding a -50 resist mod or even a -100 resist mod would make it worth it for most druids/mages.

As for Dissolvement of Shadows, I can't speak for necroes because I don't have a high level necromancer myself. I feel that if the recast delay was adjusted I *might* mem the spell when I'm in areas with large amounts of summoned mobs.

My spellbar typically looks like this:
1) CH
2) big heal
3) group heal
4) quick heal
5) another CH b/c i was too lazy to change my macros to put two ch's at top
6) DD
7) DD w/ alternate resist type
8) single root or rootcall

I'm not about to give up one of my DD's to mem disposement even with the -resist mod.

In summary, Disposement just isn't worth it, even with a resist mod. I don't miss that many casts to resists anyway, so a resist mod would not make it any more valuable.

You are correct in that it really still probably won't get used much if at all (in regards to disposement obv). Off the top of my head I can think of one place where mages would bust it out at an appropriate tier (Plane of torment, which was very unkind to mages). But at least it might actually end up being worth buying. Maybe.

 

[Manluas]

Doesn't Consecrate also have unlimited targets? I think that spell is fine as is.

PBAE so yeah - not unlimited but a lot.

 

[robopirateninja]

also, remember that the ONLY pally ae nuke is a bane nuke. Consecrate.

This is also not true.
http://www.angrygamer.net/sodwiki/index.php?title=Sanctify

 

[Spiritplx]

PBAE so yeah - not unlimited but a lot.

For some reason I remember Consecrate being the exception to the 6 target max rule. I could, however, be wrong.

 

[Alton]

You remember semi-correctly. Consecrate maxes at 12 instead of the usual 6.

 

[Ykari07]

Off the top of my head I can think of one place where mages would bust it out at an appropriate tier (Plane of torment, which was very unkind to mages).

Perhaps I missed something but where in PoTorment are there elementals?

 

[Cyzaine]

Lore wise most all the mobs in the planes are elemental spirits actually. Can't say I've had the opportunity to use disposement on them, but Wiz just recently mentioned that this should be the case.

EDIT: Found it! He mentions it here http://forum.shardsofdalaya.com/showthread.php?t=14917

 

[Wiz]

With a few exceptions such as blissful mortals, every single mob in the planes is or should be flagged as an elemental, because gods and planar beings are all elementals. The actual 'elemental' race is their pure form, whereas inside the planes they can assume any form they like.

 

[Ykari07]

Wow, I didn't know that. That's pretty awesome.

 

[vistachiri]

Perhaps I missed something but where in PoTorment are there elementals?

Yeah you wouldn't think, but when I was a very bored mage being unable to really do dick there I was toying around with sense elemental.