archaic frags

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I have been killing mephar wing for about 6 or 7 weeks straight when it pops (not to mention the 7 + times i've done it before). Unfortunately there have been times when you clear the entire wing and 0 frags drop. For trash mobs that spawn on the same cycle as the boss that seems very shitty. Please consider adding the bosses of each wing a chance at dropping the frag that it supposed to drop in its wing. Or decreasing the time when the trash is supposed to spawn.

thank you

~a shaman that actually wants his archaic.

ps: yes i have had terrible luck getting this frag and i know the RNG sucks but I dont see any of the 2 proposed changes ruining the game.
 
for the time that these spells were created I think the drop rates were fine, but now with so many guilds past the whole tot/ip phase of expansion and those no longer being anywhere near the end game they need to be looked at. They just serve as a huge problem for new casters. Especially classes like sham where they absolutely must have the spell to get a raid spot in a higher end guild, I think this is an appropriate thing to look at now. Either increase the drop rates or add another tier of spells at the higher tiers that can replace them.
 
When ToT and Prison were the tippy top of end game, you stayed there for long periods of time. This made getting Archaic, Ritual, and ToT weapons "easier" to obtain. I say easier, because your guild was actively tracking it all the time, waiting for targets, etc. Not to mention they were always cleared so chests could spawn for weapons and such.

Anyway my point was since they aren't the top anymore, and a lot of people get scooped up from lower tier and thrown right into T9-10+ they may have a hard time getting the frags they need. It takes some cool people who want to help clear the stuff, or PUGs, or some begging and pleading to get others to help most of the time.

TL:DR - I like ToT and am sad no one raids it for progression anymore =(
 
People still raid the content, it's just that it's no longer actively desired by like 5 guilds at a time. Archaic drop rates have always been random and pretty shitty if you aren't lucky, so would be nice if yeah maybe changes took place, such as bosses of proper tiers and zones also having a guaranteed drop of a random piece. Like what happens in valorb, how each boss drops a random int fragment.
 
it wouldn't bother me too much if you could get archaics from a higher tier source. for instance the finished spell for every class from sanctum trash

edit: then again that might make it too easy for alts.. maybe you could trade a rank3/4 class tome of your class for an archaic
 
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Zapple said:
People still raid the content, it's just that it's no longer actively desired by like 5 guilds at a time. Archaic drop rates have always been random and pretty shitty if you aren't lucky, so would be nice if yeah maybe changes took place, such as bosses of proper tiers and zones also having a guaranteed drop of a random piece. Like what happens in valorb, how each boss drops a random int fragment.
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I like the way that runic spells are basically something you can work on and are almost guaranteed to get if you progress through certain content and while I'm not saying that Archaic needs to be "updated" to this kind of thing I am saying that the drop rates and/or availability of the pieces is pretty bad to the point where you have some people farming Outer Prison and various other fragment dropping trash almost every single day, nearly clearing all of it and not seeing anything for it. And this after they raided tiers 5-8 for months on end and are basically past the content with the kind of xp'd character to show for it, like this guy for example who I've been taking my enchanter alt to farm frags with regularly with no real luck for either of us. I'm sure with enough persistence that either of us will finish ours, but...

I guess maybe what I'm saying is a verbose rehash of what someone else said that while these droprates and availabilities may have seemed fine when the content that dropped it was super-desired and actual end-of-game-nothing-beyond-this content, it really doesn't seem so now that you progress to content past it where these things don't actually drop anymore. Since more guilds moved past the "i'm stuck killing tier 5-9 content" slump in the past like year to year and a half, I've noticed a lot of characters who don't have their archaic usually for these kinds of reasons.
 
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it has been 2 months straight of me killing mephar wing and not one single frag.nobody else has been to mephar wing but me.

there is no real reason when the server has 5 tiers ahead that this should still be this difficult to get .

also not to mention the countless amounts of times i've done it in the past.
 
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It took me about 2 and a half months of the same thing, and the only time I wasn't in on the clear in that whole span, two sham frags dropped and one rotted. (and it was an un-named ex-guildy running the pug for some random drop for his alt, tha bastige, lol) RNG hates us. You'll get it. Life just sucks in the meantime.
 
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It took me about 2 and a half months of the same thing, and the only time I wasn't in on the clear in that whole span, two sham frags dropped and one rotted. (and it was an un-named ex-guildy running the pug for some random drop for his alt, tha bastige, lol) RNG hates us. You'll get it. Life just sucks in the meantime.
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Its not really a sense of me thinking I'm never going to get it. Its more of hey there is something wrong here and there should be an alternative.

Everyone needs relics yet you can get them from about 50 different mobs.

Everyone needs archaics and you can only get frags (randomly) from a couple of zones.

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The quest itself should be where the frags are either all caster or all healer. And there should be a quest for your individual spell. There should be something more in line to what we currently do / what was done before.
 
They could just turn the whole spell into a quest. Just have the class kill four different boss mobs in the correct order to get all of their frags. It could work like the unseen for the murk spell. That means more then one person could get the reward for the kill so long as they are both on that step.
 
Everything said about this no longer being top tier and low drop rate is truth. Either drasticaly increase the drop rate (double?) and/or replace the class specific drops with generic int/wis or all drops.
 
I spent nearly a year on t6-9, killing all the content and bosses numerous times, and I still didnt get my archaic. At t10 I got fed up and spent 2-3 months pugging or begging guild to backfarm trash just to randomly get that spell. If it hadn't happened to drop when it did I probably would have quit because many classes are just not viable at the end-game without their archaic.
 
I had to rep solo just because he did not include a picture of a now" Legendary Sod Member".
 
I remember trying to get your archaic solo, and zorlong and others.. omg the horrors.. sucks to have to ask your guild to constantly go to those zones with zero reward constantly.. nice when it finally drops though :O
 
i myself have been after 1 page for arch for 6 months ive done multiple IP,Valor,OP raids and never seen my frag drop. went as far as clearing every trash mob in OP and only seen 3 frags on whole clear
 
removing thaz really hurt things for priests, you had way more mobs to farm in lower thaz for the half pages (faster respawn as well, and you could clear it with 1 group) and upper thaz for the full page rather than having to do frost. same deal.
 
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