Zones in which even in the entrance you simply CANT solo...

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xavori

Dalayan Beginner
Yes, that's the issue of today, or maybe of many days ago, because from what I know, this thing ahs been happening for quite a long time... places where you cant solo, even at the entrance, how many have you seen? A few weeks ago, Shoruded Island was one of them, but luckily they changed it, so at the entrance you can solo mobs there, because they dont assist... but what about Warrens, where even at the VERY BEGGINING, being the place for low-mid levels, you cant attack a kobold without getting anotherone to attack you? What about Crystal Caverns, where you can see 3 spiders together in teh same spot?

Well, this isnt a rant, this is a Suggestion, to change the entrances of various places mentioned, but maybe there will be more places like this, so I will need more players to post for zones like this ;)
The problem isnt that exp is slow, I dont get money fast, etc, its just you simply cant go alone at the very beggining of low lvl places and fight one monster at a time, not because some of them are kos or they are moving around, but because they assist, making it just possible to go there and kill mobs by going with somebody else, ALWAYS, so that's why this should be changed... or at least I think it has to be :brow:
 
Re: Zones in which even in the entrance you simply CANT solo

xavori said:
Yes, that's the issue of today, or maybe of many days ago, because from what I know, this thing ahs been happening for quite a long time... places where you cant solo, even at the entrance, how many have you seen? A few weeks ago, Shoruded Island was one of them, but luckily they changed it, so at the entrance you can solo mobs there, because they dont assist... but what about Warrens, where even at the VERY BEGGINING, being the place for low-mid levels, you cant attack a kobold without getting anotherone to attack you? What about Crystal Caverns, where you can see 3 spiders together in teh same spot?

Well, this isnt a rant, this is a Suggestion, to change the entrances of various places mentioned, but maybe there will be more places like this, so I will need more players to post for zones like this ;)
The problem isnt that exp is slow, I dont get money fast, etc, its just you simply cant go alone at the very beggining of low lvl places and fight one monster at a time, not because some of them are kos or they are moving around, but because they assist, making it just possible to go there and kill mobs by going with somebody else, ALWAYS, so that's why this should be changed... or at least I think it has to be :brow:
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no offense but you don't seem like a very bright person
changing assist code so mobs aren't social? refer to above comment

dungeons aren't intended for people to solo in
if you want to solo go to outdoor zones where you can sow and kite all you want and mobs are spread out
 
I manage to solo the spiders fine. You just need to learn the social aggro radius. Once you get past the spiders, you can go fight the golem guys, they're non-aggro so just locate ones standing alone and you can fight them.

Though I've found the spiders are better exp.

-Z
 
Re: Zones in which even in the entrance you simply CANT solo

Trig said:
no offense but you don't seem like a very bright person
changing assist code so mobs aren't social? refer to above comment

dungeons aren't intended for people to solo in
if you want to solo go to outdoor zones where you can sow and kite all you want and mobs are spread out
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Now IM the stupid? Please, WHAT outdoor zones? Oh, you mean Thurgadin or Mistwoods! Riiiiight... and at lvl 10 what? I keep killing lvl 2 kobolds there? Or I try to go to warrens for example, and figure out that I cant solo, so I need a group, but hey! Its so EASY to find a group nowadays! :roll: You didnt get my point, so please, ready my post again ;)
 
I have found at lvl 10 there is not much to solo, especially at warrens. Try and get an exp group in warrens (I know, I know..but nobody is around to group, right? But, in fact there are people to group with in warrens, just not all the time). At lvl 10 I had no trouble finding groups in warrens (things may have changed somewhat since then, but it is still possible).

Outdoor zones..
(around lvl 10)
Mistwoods
Great Divide
Shrouded Isle (entrance. You can single pull the beatles there, if you wait for the rest of the nearby mobs to move away, you can also sneak past them head left or right, and into garden maze and try the single mobs in there. It will be hard though)

Around lvl 13 or so go to great divide and hunt sky drakes, be careful of the wyrms wandering around. This does affect dragon faction, but helps giant faction. Although, it is miniscule. Also in great divide are the Tizmaks, (in caves).

Try CC, and keep trying in warrens, and shrouded isle.

Just get yourself to around lvl 16-17 and head to Echo Caverns, you can single pull the bugs and shrooms there for great exp at that lvl. At that time you will also be able to handle single/double pulls in warrens, though it will be tough.

I think we have all faced double pulls when just starting out in warrens and other places, but it is not that you can't progress...trust me you can.

I don't think anything needs to be changed. Just keep at it, as you lvl up, the mobs that were once double/triple pull will become single pull, however they will yeild less xp becuase of a lower /con than they originally were. But, that is something we deal with. Don't forget..WR is designed to encourage grouping (although soloing is not impossible), if you can't single pull some mob somewhere simply wait, level up, then come back and see what happens, if you want to solo the mobs, or wait to get a group.

~DarkArtist
 
Hmm..

I am not exactly understanding the problem - I could solo fine as a shaman at level 10 in warrens. The two-pulls are a hassle, but that is what root is for. GD has some good solo (yes, outdoor) spots (Tizmaks for example) that I think are around your level. If all else fails you could (GASP!) try grouping.
 
DarkArtist said:
I have found at lvl 10 there is not much to solo, especially at warrens. Try and get an exp group in warrens (I know, I know..but nobody is around to group, right? But, in fact there are people to group with in warrens, just not all the time). At lvl 10 I had no trouble finding groups in warrens (things may have changed somewhat since then, but it is still possible).

Outdoor zones..
(around lvl 10)
Mistwoods
Great Divide
Shrouded Isle (entrance. You can single pull the beatles there, if you wait for the rest of the nearby mobs to move away, you can also sneak past them head left or right, and into garden maze and try the single mobs in there. It will be hard though)

Around lvl 13 or so go to great divide and hunt sky drakes, be careful of the wyrms wandering around. This does affect dragon faction, but helps giant faction. Although, it is miniscule. Also in great divide are the Tizmaks, (in caves).

Try CC, and keep trying in warrens, and shrouded isle.

Just get yourself to around lvl 16-17 and head to Echo Caverns, you can single pull the bugs and shrooms there for great exp at that lvl. At that time you will also be able to handle single/double pulls in warrens, though it will be tough.

I think we have all faced double pulls when just starting out in warrens and other places, but it is not that you can't progress...trust me you can.

I don't think anything needs to be changed. Just keep at it, as you lvl up, the mobs that were once double/triple pull will become single pull, however they will yeild less xp becuase of a lower /con than they originally were. But, that is something we deal with. Don't forget..WR is designed to encourage grouping (although soloing is not impossible), if you can't single pull some mob somewhere simply wait, level up, then come back and see what happens, if you want to solo the mobs, or wait to get a group.

~DarkArtist
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I know! I understand the encouragement for grouping, perfectly! Im not asking for easier exp or the such, just a bit of modification in the entrances of the places I named :) Shrouded island is posibel to solo now, but warrens even with some root spell or similar mobs get at the same time to you at the very entrance of the place :eek:

Gadget8000, I love groups, im not a lonely wolf ;) , this post was made in order to change the entrance areas of low lvl places so in case you dont find a group (with the actual population that's quite common, sadly) you can at least solo, slowly, but you can do it.
By the way, im lvl 14 now, what lvl are Tizmaks and how of them in the caves assist? If they dont, I can go there! :) without a group, that is.


note: Today I played about 2 hours, and in those hours I found the very same group both 1 hour-periods, yeah, that was luck, I lvled up fast, but how many times do I get that luck? :sadf:
 
Bah

Bah, I don't think spiders are better xp. Maybe for a caster, because it seems like they have less hps. But for a melee, that little poison may seem like a little, but it gets annoying.

Also, geonids drop probably the best loot from 15-40 or so. I am getting peridots for loot off them, a nice easy 12pp a pop.
 
Re: Bah

gola said:
Also, geonids drop probably the best loot from 15-40 or so. I am getting peridots for loot off them, a nice easy 12pp a pop.
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So, at those lvls I can go and easily kill that mobs, and get nice staff of them, like Staff of the geonid? :brow: Cool, I'll try it later, at 15, because that's a good lvl to fight some of the geonids, right?

It still looks to me that there are little zones that the entrance requires someone to group with, so it would be nice if any mod/admin talks about it here :)
 
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