Wizard Harvest Line of Spells

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Widan

Dalayan Adventurer
Today I was just thinking that I normally don't need the harvest mana spells that much for myself unless I'm soloing or in a low dps group. My suggestion is to allow the harvest line of spells to be casted on others. I know there was a problem with necro's because all they were being used for was mana pumps, but since this spell can only be cast once every 10 minutes I don't think that would be a problem.
 
Every caster class has some way of getting back mana, also the method for all is tied to the flavour of the class in question. Wizards get one shot mana 'heals' which is similar to their nukes. Since wizards don't normally buff others, it wouldn't make sense in a flavourful way to allow wizards to do this.

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We do have targetable procs and anti-magic runes, though. Making Harvest a targetable mana injection every 10 minutes doesn't sound far fetched.
 
but then the necro union would barg in and declaire how unfair that was, much like i will state that here.
 
Well it would be since its basicly taking one of our formerly marketable commodities for raid parties and giving it to the wizard, who ALREADY has a set use in raids. No, dear GODS no I'm not going to go into trying to rebalance necroes. I'm happy with how the necro class plays since we get a bit of everything. However giving wizards a targetable mana dump would basicly be a slap in the face towards necromancers basicly, at least thats what i feel the general reaction would be. Well either that or 'meh'.
 
A mana injection every 10 minutes that stuns you and one that is chain castable with no stun are very different things.
 
And this could not have been done to the necro mana give spell to keep it as a viable option rather than simply remove it? That seems a bit unfair, but then again I'm sure that this has been discussed, debated, and harped about constaintly so I won't kick a fuss up about it.
 
Necros wouldn't mind having wizards step in with a mana heal. I do not believe a necro's place in a raid is just to pump mana, but to dish out dps. I dunno if on SoD they increased the mobs buff slots, but if not then doing so along with allowing necros to stack their dots(as in Nec_1 casts Dot_1, Necro_2 can still apply his own Dot_1) will allow necros to have a place in raids. This would have the effect of having to retune a lot of raid encounters. I would actually love to go on the warpath for such a thing... but it's just not that high of a priorety, not for me... and most likely not for any of the developers either.

But back tot he point. I say allow a wizard to use his mana spells on others. It's already balanced out with needing 10 minutes to cast again. I also don't think many wizards would use this in a raid situation anyways, at least on another person, seeing as they'd rather get mana for themselves to get out that last nuke or two or twenty =X
 
As been said, this is a definite no. Taking a spell from a lacking class and giving it to one of the most useful? no no no
 
they didn't say take it from us and give it to wizards. they are wanting wizard harvest spells to be allowed to cast on others. We'd keep our twitch spells and you'll eventually hear me rant and rave about them on raids and how necros are dps and not mana pumpers for raids.
 
As a wizard I don't see what the big fuss is about. I mean, that spell is every 10 minutes, and as a wiz, I'm never sitting around FM. If you don't need the extra mana as a wizard, then maybe you need increase your dps. If in fact this spell became targetable, well now it's just gonna be a one shot deal for raids, to feed a cleric. I really don't see the point.
 
"A bit of flexibility with Harvest would be nice" is the idea. Perhaps to help buffers get back on their feet after a whipe, or when another wizard is OOM while you're still at half mana during a raid fight. Sort of like a mod rod that doesnt take away HP, but you're giving up your own mana regeneration for another 10 minutes.
 
I use harvest all the time in groups and raids. The only time I do not use it is when in a very slow group or raid (or when I have a troll moment and forget to cast it). Being able to give mana to another character, while useful, doesn't seem at all apropriate for a wizard.
 
Harvest draws mana from the area around you, who's to say that mana couldnt be redirected to another mind?
 
wiz

I really dont think wizard needs anymore usefulness.

Perhaps they need a good wacking with the nerf bat :p
 
Re: wiz

nimnim said:
I really dont think wizard needs anymore usefulness.

Perhaps they need a good wacking with the nerf bat :p
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Now that second part I very much disagree with. As a wizard, we didn't get nerfed by any means, but with resist changes we hardly need to be toned down much more. We deal damage - that's why you play a wizard. It makes sense so why would you take it away... we are not an incredibly diverse class.
 
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