Where raid zones start?

Why is it so hard to realize that 11 people sitting outside of the field of bone ward means you could choose not to be a dick.
 
Hopefully next time since this confirms about the ward and the trash, if they see another guild through the ward in FoB to just back off.
 
I thought that was a claim. So long as the other 12 people are on the way. Correct me if im wrong please.

A Claim: being in a RAID ZONE WITH 6 PEOPLE. You now have 30 minutes to have 18 people in a RAID ZONE! or claim is void.

This thread kibeth, is aimed at rather or not the "Raid zone" for Yclist and Spires Really starts with (Spires) past the ward and wiping to trash [before zone in] or (yclist) engaging the ward [before the zone in]

So really these 2 guilds and post are fighting over where these zone's begin and rather or not you acctually need to be INSIDE spires or Yclist to have a legit claim...

p.s. they are worried say CW is killing (PAST THE WARD) to the actual zone line and say Exo comes and trains right by them with their 6 and ACCTUALLY ZONES INTO SPIRES. Who has the claim now? Thats what its all about.
 
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Seems like its solved. Also should have been more than clear that if your being an objective outsider and not involved in the dispute that clearing to open the door should have constituted a claim. Next time a step back and look at it from a regular, neutral standpoint
 
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