Warpstone Loot

Dedmon

Dalayan Adventurer
I must say, I enjoy warpstone. It has filled in the void left between the Warrens and Bancak, i think.

The exp is great, the pulls are fun, though the mobs could use some variation (been killing Kobolds of some version or another sense level 18 :)

The problem is the loot is sub-par for the level of the mobs that drop it. I'm talking about the loot from level 26 (always level 26) nameds. For instance, there is a named called Ancient Hollower (i think) that drops a 11 ac 3 dex and some CR helm. It....could be argue'd that that is the correct risk vrs reward if he were just a normal mob..but he is completely immune to every spell my BL and Wizard combo threw at him. First attempt ended up with us both dieing, second attempt I didnt use any spells and just melee'd him down with both characters.

Imagine the frustration to find a helm, having died for it once already, that even if I were able to wear it , I already had better from the warrens!. It got thrown away pretty quickly afterwards.

The very rare random drop from normal mobs in the zone is a 25 hp 25 mana (and something else pretty minor) neck piece that is BETTER than the loot from the other named (forgot his name, only saw him once) that drops a lame neck piece. He's not immune to spells, but he has extra flurry attack, or frenzy, or something like that. He's a tough mob, though not as tough as the first named. The risk vrs reward just is not there for those two particular named.

Common loot as a whole is pretty poo also. The cash-money drops at my level is about right on, but the VAST majority of the kills, all you get is a pelt. Maybe 1 in 20 gives you a cat's eye agate, but never have I even seen a silver amulet (drops in BB on up), a peridot (bancak and up), or anything, for that manner, that vendors for more than 2 sp. Hell, even some leather armor would be better, because that sells for 3g at times.

I hope this is not considered a whine or anything of that nature. I'm just trying to get my point across that I, and a few other's I've spoken to, feel the loot just isn't as good as it should be.
 
I realise too late that I was not in the "suggestions and request" portion when I posted this. For this, I apologise. If a mod would, could you please move this over to the proper forum?
 
The way I see it...Warpstone is a new zone, I'm thankful it's been implemented and I enjoy most of my time there. While I agree that loot isn't exactly top notch, I personally just take this into account when I'm going to be fighting in Warpstone, and accept that it may not be the place to get teh phat lewtz. If I want phat lewtz I'll go to another zone.

End of problem really.
 
Um,, I'm glad? that you take crap loot as acceptable?

Um what was the point of your post now? Tell me how you deal with something that hsould be fixed, so therefore it should not be fixed?
 
There's no armor because vulfweres do not wear armor. I think that generally you are expecting something like level 30-40 items out of level 25 mobs here, the loot is in line with equal level zones.

If you think I'm wrong, then I want you to cite some examples of equal-level loot that is vastly superior in comparision (ancient symbols were nerfed).
 
Geez, Wiz.

I was killing young griffons and doing the quests in NBL at 25 through 30. The griffons drop feathers, and griffon claws-- both VASTLY superior to things like the oddment strung scarf. :lol:
 
Easily done Wiz

Whereas the Vulfwere's drop: Cat's Eye agate (less than 3 sp) and Blood stone (less than 5 sp)

EVERYTHING ELSE below that level drops those, Silver amulets, and at least some form of loot worth 3-4 gold.

As for the loot being level 30 equivalent from level 26 nameds...I must say I disagree. I do not want loot that's more reward vrs risk. I want loot that's worth busting your arse for. 3 Dex is not worth busting your arse for. The "level 26 named" fights like a level 30 at the least, considering they both have a form of attack/defense that you don't normally see untill you get into the level 60+ raid scene. (Counterspell, Flurry).
 
hmmm. i was in a castle group the other night with a fantastic group. we decided to go into the castle and the invis vampires were a nice twist and caused many wtf reactions. the difficulty was perfect it seemed and we only had a shaman healer.

anyhoot, there was a named up. a Gem Something vampire, was spawned on an upper level and was guarded by about 3-4 mobs. a couple were roamers and were easy pulls. anyways i could be wrong, but i think that same helmet dropped it was a plate helm had 3dex i'm pretty sure and the entire group was 30+. it was pretty much a bummer for the difficulty, the named was red to all of us. the only way we killed the named was because i died in an attempt to split the mobs and the other groupies got 2 away from the named. we still had 2-3 on the named pull too.

i snuck/hid around the castle it's a really neat zone area, albeit, i couldn't find the exit if there is one. i found a broken bridge but wasn't sure what to do and i didn't ahve up to date maps... kudos to the devs!
 
I can't speak too much for the named loot in Warpstone since I haven't fought the named very often, but the trash loot is a little weak for the level of the mobs. I can go to Shrouded Isle, Paw or Temple of Yaralith and get lots of vendor loot which sells for several gold to a few plat. The mobs in Warpstone barely cover the bandages I use to heal up. I get mostly furs (which sell for 2sp?) and a rarely a minor gem.
 
cat's eye agates and blood stones dont sell for silver pieces, they sell for gold pieces, around 2 for an agate, and 5 for a bloodstone. That being said, i do agree the loot in this zone isnt in line with similar level dungeons, especially shrouded isles. I dont know if ancient molds(or the materials to make the armor) drop in warpstone, but i've never gotten any there. Molds and materials drop pretty frequently in shrouded isles, along with 1 - 3 pp gems/amulets. The caster mobs in shrouded isles also drops skull staves alot, and those sell to npc merchants for 7 platinum.

Just because the loot in this zone may be worse than other places to xp at that level doesnt mean i think it should be changed. I dont remember the XP bonus of the top of my head, but to me, a high xp bonus would more than make up for lack of loot. It's just like anatole said, if you want loot go to a different zone where you know the loot is better. I wouldnt say warpstone is the only dungeon or zone that has worse loot than comparable zones.
 
dont forget kaladim A, has OUTSTANDING loot for casters and some melee loot for the 20-35ish, and so does first ruins, that ratfur cloak, is unmatched untill you start raiding. while the loot sucks in warpstone the exp is nice, but i dont agree that that loot in there is par with its difficulty. I think many here has cited that yes there are many other places lvls 20-40 could go for better loot and given examples. I guess you have to give some things to get some others. Dong think you will get faster/easier pulls in kaladim or first ruins, the 2 examples I used, nor good exp bonus.
 
The items and trash loot increase in quality drastically once you go inside the castle and are fighting the vamps. A vamp wing is 1p and the items are sweet. Got a charm with companion str 2 on it as well as other nice stats. An earring there has recovery 1 and some stats too. Beyond the broken bridge there is the big named, tough fight for a group of low 40's but it was fun. He dropped a ring, if I remember right, it was aimed at hybrids more than anything.

Great zone, but yes, the bits of loot could be a bit more sellable to merchants. Not a huge change needed, but a change nonetheless.
 
was back inside the castle lastnight. and we killed the Gem Crafter again. dropped really nice all/all gloves i think had nice stats plus 30mana. it was gettin late, can't quite remember what it was.

so perhaps the loot got looked into? /shrug
 
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