Upper Thaz Reevaluation

Dinadass said:
A 3 pull later in the earth wing would be okay, and if it was 2 of the rapeface rock elementals and 1 of the memblur guys it would probably be about right for lower thaz. The combination of 3 rock elementals + 5 linked whitecons right behind you + another roaming rock elemental add if you get more than 5 feet from the wall is just dumb though.
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There are only 2 types of Thaz raid encounters, "Very Easy" and "Very-Very Easy".
 
remember when the IP 3 pull was hard

remember when Gongo was impossible

serious note: looking at the amount of wings available in thaz, i honestly feel it should take no less than 45 minutes to clear the trash per wing. the way it was before (lolezmodethaz) you could wipe out 2-3 wings in 2 hours (or do more, provided that the entire fucking zone wasn't cleared already), scoop phatz and go off to tot or uc or something "hard"
 
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The IP 3 pull is still "hard" because if 2 of them decide to nuke the same person at the same time, they're pretty much dead. And having a tank or healer instagibbed on that pull usually means you wipe.

As it stands, an on tier raid can do a lower thaz wing in maybe 75-90 minutes or so, provided there are no wipes. That seems like a good amount of time IMO.
 
Man, I remember when Aeternus was first breaking into IP and our strat for the 3 pull was "whip out your magebanes, pick a mob to caster curse, blow up at least one mob, be in sadri to port back up"

Good times
 
Dimmi said:
Man, I remember when Aeternus was first breaking into IP and our strat for the 3 pull was "whip out your magebanes, pick a mob to caster curse, blow up at least one mob, be in sadri to port back up"Good times
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While I have used this strat myself on some raids, I don't necessarily think that it should be the strat used. The way I see it these multi-linked pulls are meant as a gear-check and so long as you can burn down one and have no problems with wiping and porting back up you can almost entirely skip the point of the check. Personally I think these linked pulls should be like the 4-pulls in Sepulcher where if you don't kill em all they repop :)
 
Chakekik said:
While I have used this strat myself on some raids, I don't necessarily think that it should be the strat used. The way I see it these multi-linked pulls are meant as a gear-check and so long as you can burn down one and have no problems with wiping and porting back up you can almost entirely skip the point of the check. Personally I think these linked pulls should be like the 4-pulls in Sepulcher where if you don't kill em all they repop :)
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I agree, Also i would like to note that the 4 / 3 pulls in pofrost arn't working as intended. For some odd reason if u kill 1 and wipe it wont respawn with his buddies making the pull less easy. Also these mobs only hit for 100-450 which is too low for tier 8 / 9 trash imo. I know they cast some AoE's and do some other weak spells but retribution was doing these pulls easily back 1-2 months ago when they didn't all quit the game. while Rock golems in LT Earth were giving us trouble because hit for 800+ and they are 3 pulls.

I'd like to note that thaz mez itself can be argueed but it's not valid because you actually need a good enchanter which they're arn't any on the server so that's not fair. Also the facts that the golems are pure melee base isn't a valid arguement either becuase most tanks who tier 8+ don't have over 7k+ hp.

in conclusion, pofrost 3/4 pulls isn't a sufficient way to gear check your raid and should be buffed IMO.

PS. Gongo is still too easy.
 
Lockon97 said:
I'd like to note that thaz mez itself can be argueed but it's not valid because you actually need a good enchanter which they're arn't any on the server so that's not fair. Also the facts that the golems are pure melee base isn't a valid arguement either becuase most tanks who tier 8+ don't have over 7k+ hp.

in conclusion, pofrost 3/4 pulls isn't a sufficient way to gear check your raid and should be buffed IMO.
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i know of at least 3 good enchanters. letni, redken, tizanish. just because your enchanter doesnt know how to play his class, doesnt mean others dont either.


most tanks who tier 8+ don't have over 7k+ hp. - wtf? by tier 8 youre supposed to have been able to farm a juggo if not an eternal, easily. thats if you didnt tier jump of course. fomelo camille for a good example of tier hopping, yet still tier 8 tank. thats camiLLe. her supposedly above tier 8 gear (weapon/shield, 1 bracer and shoulders) are easily counterbalanced by earring, boots, cloak, other bracer and shitty charm). and even with all that, shes still at 7.9k hp.


in conclusion: stop smoking crack and making shit up.
 
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Dimmi said:
Man, I remember when Aeternus was first breaking into IP and our strat for the 3 pull was "whip out your magebanes, pick a mob to caster curse, blow up at least one mob, be in sadri to port back up"

Good times
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Only strategy for the IP 3 pull is for Linken to tank all of them and powerthru
 
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