Unspent AA's

Syalara

Syalara

Dalayan Beginner
This has been brought up before in various threads in one form or another but I have a couple of thoughts on what to do w/ unspent AA's.

1) For 200 unspent AA's you can request a perma race change (same as in the GM held raffles, no bonuses from new race)
2) For 350 you can request some kind of title like GM's used to bestow on folks

(i forget what max aas are for the client so this may not even be possible to track)

IMO, this would do 2 things. Firstly, it would give players w/ max aas or those with just a fuckton of time on their hands, something to work for on their main that is not a plat sink. It would also help alleviate some of the frustration many players feel when they begin to run out of sparkly fun AA's and have to start buying crap like Advanced Metabolism.

When the GM raffles are held, everybody I know goes apeshit over the prospect of a race change, I would love to see that rewarded to a player for their effort and not for their luck in the rarely held lottos.

Nothing here would effect game balance, it would be just a flavor change for those who desire it and work to attain it.

Also I think the AA count is high enough to keep the requests on staff at an acceptably low rate.
 
So you can xp to 200AAs easy w/ the bonus, get a race change resetting your AAs to 0, the rapidly gain them back?


Client resets AAs at 255/256, idk if it is just displaying it wrong or if it is actually reset on server side
 
I forgot about the bonus applied to the first 200 or 100 whatever it is aa's, good point. But that can be worked around I am sure if its an idea people like and/or is worth implementing.

or just left alone.

if somebody wants to burn their first 200 aas on a race change that wont alter their character besides in appearance, it must worth it to them....and its not an insignificant amount of time involved even with the bonuses attached.

edit- also, blowing your first 200 aas on something like this, as opposed to things that actually improve your character, is a quick way to be guildless or get a rep as the shittiest 65 on the server....so even if possible, I dont see it being taken advantage of in that fashion by a large portion of the playerbase.
 
No, i was looking for exactly what I typed. Unspent AA's. I would not want to see this limited to only those with retarded amounts of aas.

that may include over the cap aas as you mentioned, but exclusivity is not what I am going for.
 
Syalara said:
if somebody wants to burn their first 200 aas on a race change that wont alter their character besides in appearance, it must worth it to them....and its not an insignificant amount of time involved even with the bonuses attached.
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so even if possible, I dont see it being taken advantage of in that fashion by a large portion of the playerbase.
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I was under the impression you also took the racial traits and base stats of your new race.

Also, not to be a dick, but I would expect about the same amount of people taking advantage of the first 200 AAs for a race change on an alt as those saving up for these post cap/useful AAs which is about 5-10 total people

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I would also suggest the price of title and race to be switched. After all, you can get a title very easy w/ fame (not saying fame is at all easy to accumulate) compared to that of a race change.
 
iaeolan said:
Also, not to be a dick, but I would expect about the same amount of people taking advantage of the first 200 AAs for a race change on an alt as those saving up for these post cap/useful AAs which is about 5-10 total people

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I would also suggest the price of title and race to be switched. After all, you can get a title very easy w/ fame (not saying fame is at all easy to accumulate) compared to that of a race change.
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Not sure exactly what you are saying in that first bit, frankly I wouldnt expect alot of people(percentage wise) to burn 200 aa on race change either, its value is more for peoples mains, or well established alts or people that just regret ever clicking the race they did while in character creation.

The AA's required can surely be tweaked but getting fame points is damn close to a myth for alot of players who may not be able to be on when there is an unannounced event due to timing or timezones or whatever.


Either way, I just see this as something players can work towards if they want it, without altering a characters strength. And it would require zero coding, just some interaction between GM's and players.

I dont see much, if any, of a downside to this.
 
I would approve of something like this for unspent AAs over the cap - just to keep those players who are dedicated enough (or dumb enough?) to keep playing for over SEVEN HUNDRED AAs something to look forward to - and it's a fun idea.
 
Like I've said before, I would approve of any sort of fun reward system for AAs over the cap. I also think that requiring 200-350 extra AAs might be a bit excessive. Some reward for every 50-100 AAs over the cap would be reasonable IMO. That's a lot of time put in.
 
If it gets turned into an only over the cap AA thing, I would be saddened. I would rather see it kept open to anyone who wants to work for it, regardless of overall AA count.
 
I think doing something with unspent AAs would be cool, I like the idea giving people who are over the cap (Or people who don't want to spend their AA's to advance their character :psyduck: ) something to strive for.
 
My thoughts on the topic, copied from some other thread:

No, honestly, I like the idea of some sort of reward for maxing out your character, although I don't think a rebirth system is very feasible. A few options I could picture working:

+1 hp or mana per AA beyond max (I suppose this could get unbalancing)
+x number of fame points per AA beyond max
A whole new set of epic quests, available only to those with maxed AAs, that have more steps and further upgrades open up as you get more AAs. Probably something similar to the MQ in that it'd go step by step with an aug or two that improve as you progress through the quest(s).
An alternate to the fame point system.

Personally, I think a new set of commands for maxed characters would be pretty cool. Give them Legendary Character points or something like that, 5 per AA beyond max. You can spend your points with /cm legendary pointbuy, with a variety of options. A few ideas for them:

-Titles
-Illusion clickies
-Mounts (might be too much of a pain in the ass from the programming side)
-Charm credits, if those ever go in (see Zhak's thread on sale prices of charms, and the option of turning them in for credit toward another charm)
-Access to a fun zone, early Plane of Mischief style.
-Various utility clickies or commands. E.g:
*One that will cast succor (self or group) in any zone in which you can bind, with a fast cast time.
*One that will give you a burst of something like Selo's, but which goes off if you get attacked or attack, much like spirit of scale.
*One that casts invis.
*One that casts IVU.
*One that casts levitation.
*One that casts EB.

I think that something like that would be a good way of benefitting maxed out characters, without significantly altering game balance. They're all convenience stuff. It's not like zipping quickly across an outdoor zone, whether with Selo's-type run speed or with an evac clicky, is going to cause someone with max AAs to miss out on content they haven't seen before. It would be a convenience reward for players who have earned it.
 
i don't think they would spend time making any "epic" quests that only 0.01% of the population will ever see, we can't even get them to make more epic quests that everyone would see

items np with, titles np with, mounts won't happen

would like to see race change though
 
Momatose said:
i don't think they would spend time making any "epic" quests that only 0.01% of the population will ever see, we can't even get them to make more epic quests that everyone would see

items np with, titles np with, mounts won't happen

would like to see race change though
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Good points. And I agree the mounts aren't likely, it's just one more option for prestige benefits for someone who's put in that kind of time.
 
Momatose said:
.. that only 0.01% of the population...
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I can think of off the top of my head 18 chars that are max AA. And I know dozens more that would be max easily and quickly if there was an incentive to do so. Which is probably a bit more then 0.01%......

Also, keep in mind, earning AA when you are already at max AA is a million times easier and faster then when you have 0 AA (regardless of new zone bonus). So any benefit or bonus past cap should reflect that.
 
instead of having it be a number of how many aa's you're over the cap, it should be just a plain number.. some classes cap out low 500's and some don't cap until like 590..

I think if you hit 800aa's on a character you're due for a custom title or a race change.

It would actually give me incentive to AA Podge

And I think currently two characters have 800aa's.. It'd take a day or two for Zaira and I to get there, but it's a very very very small number of people.
 
Momatose said:
i don't think they would spend time making any "epic" quests that only 0.01% of the population will ever see
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It would surprise you how many people are actually in the high 400, low 500 range of aa's. Its definitely more then you think there are!
 
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