Trouble Zoning in to The Dream

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frokbur

Dalayan Beginner
Heya,
I'm new to SoD, but I have opened it before on another comp about 6 months ago.

I installed EQ Titanium fresh.

Patched, works fine (yes I opened with patcher)

On both of my computers I have new characters that get to log in screen within about 10 seconds, but when I click zone in, I just get the zoning screen and it sits there for 10 mins+

One comp is XP, other Vista- 2.5 gigs and 4 gigs of ram

Not really due to lack of computing I would hope.

Any help? Thanks!
 
Are you trying it with both machines at the same time?

Try it with just one.
 
Ok, well I went on vacation with laptop and used Wi Fi and successfully logged in using internet from internet cafes and etc. Now, that I am back home, I have the same issue as before.

I can log in and get to char select, but when I try to zone, it never loads...


What could this suggest? Router settings? IP problems?

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Thanks

Edit: looking over some of the previous posts, I have found that there are some people that have had similar issues... I am using a Linksys router.

It shouldn't make any difference, but I went in and did some port forwarding and made a comp the DMZ, but it did not help.
 
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1) Would it be possible for you to put up a list of your router's filters?

Port forwarding is for providing services to the outside, which you probably don't want to do. Packets will be relayed by the router to destination unless there is a filter dropping the packet destination port/destination IP in place on the router.

But really, the simplest filter list is "Deny/Drop all incoming/Allow all outbound".

This means all traffic from the outside is blocked and all traffic initiated by a machine on the interior network is allowed. For home users, this should be fine. Blocking outbound ports only "helps" you if your machines are already owned.
 
Thank you so much! I got it to work. I have no idea why packets were being blocked, but I fixed them and running smoothly. Thanks for the help Boehm!

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It seems to be a luck thing or timing thing... Not sure if it relates to the business of server... and I have further researched the topic to find that there have not been any real conclusions.

I log in and get to server select.. If I click play, then it will stay at scanning servers forever.

I can click News, and then ok multiple times and it will show the server and I can make it to the character select screen.

If I zone in a character I meet the endless zoning screen.

Earlier today I logged in and played on both computers for 3 hrs.

Earlier today when I made it in and played, I clicked play from server select screen, and it worked first shot.

Occasionally get a 1017 error, but that seems rare. I generally can tell whether I can or can not make it in by the time I hit the play button on the server select.

Strange? Any help is appreciated.
 
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Are you able to get to the general internet without any problem using internet explorer?

I ask because the client program uses IE's settings.

I doubt if this is it if you were able to get out using another network, but it doesn't hurt to check, especially if you made any changes on your laptop so it could connect through the internet cafe.

It really sounds like it's your router or isp though. If your laptop worked fine at an internet cafe, at not at home, then it's happening outside your computer.

I'm assuming there was nothing you changed on the laptop while you were on vacation that you changed back when you got home.
 
frokbur said:
The link is an example of what happens when I try to log in:

[img=http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9282/faild.th.png]

When I successfully log in, it doesn't send information to 0.0.0.0 (obviously),

I have no idea why it is in the first place.
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That address is local. The mess next to it is the destination, and neither is routable so would not be originating from Sod. Have you done a "netstat -ab > logfile"
in cmd to list the outgoing connections on your machine? Those could just be a dhcp renewal in the router state table. Linksys has history of being bad with udp.

UDP 5997 - Loginserver
UDP 9000 - World Server
UDP 7770-7794, 7950-8091 - Zone servers

That is what you are looking for. If you machine has an outgoing connection for one of these but its not represented in your router connection table, it might still be the router. Linksys used to give people using pptp for vpning fits and I don't remember them ever fixing it.
 
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I ran netstat, and I don't have an outgoing connection using any of those ports.

I also ran a netscape -sp upd, and I got this when attempting to login:

UDP Statistics for IPv4

Datagrams received = 470
No Ports = 300
Receive Errors = 1
Datagrams Sent =4564

This was when I was stuck at Scanning World Servers at server select.

I'm pretty sure this is a router issue. I can reset the router and I can log in and zone in if I time it perfectly. It seems when the router is resetting it isn't filtering ports. But, if I zone or camp or anything of the sort, I won't ever zone in. It seems I am sending information, but not receiveing it. Like you said, Linksys routers are bad sometimes with UDP.

When I don't reset my router:
When I log in on my username/pw if I put in the wrong pw I can't log into server select.

If I put in the correct username/pw it allows me to go into server select, but I can tell that I am not actually connecting.

To get to char select from the server screen I have to click news or chat or it will say Scanning world servers forever. Then it says submitting and it takes me to character select and shows me my character. By the time I get to character select I am pretty sure that I have no connectivity to the server at all. If I try to zone in, I just get an infinity loading screen.

I'm not sure if there is a possible solution other then get a new router.
 
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Confirmed: Router is blocking ports.

Used Proxy server and Proxycap and was able to log in and play.

Any ideas how to get around the blocking of these ports that doesn't use a proxy server?

The router isn't set to block these ports, so I'm thinking a program can open them?

Any help is appreciated, thanks
 
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frokbur said:
Confirmed: Router is blocking ports.

Used Proxy server and Proxycap and was able to log in and play.

Any ideas how to get around the blocking of these ports that doesn't use a proxy server?

The router isn't set to block these ports, so I'm thinking a program can open them?

Any help is appreciated, thanks
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Chances are your router is using VxWorks, a real time unix for mips chips. If so there were hacks for "downgrading" the firmware to a version with a shell. (The shell was removed because it became common knowledge that end users could manually set upload and download speeds to maximum on isp provided routers) You will have to google the change.

That said there are a couple of caveats;

1) It might be some proprietary crap made by linksys.

2) There may not be firmware available for your router

3) You will need to set up a tftp server on your network and force the router to look for it to download the software.

4) If there is firmware available, the text editor is probably "ed". This is the original editor made by Ken and Dennis in 1970. It only shows a line at a time.

Hopefully the google link will have some advice on it, because I have no intention of remembering how to use it. It will not be what you are used to.

If you are lucky it will be a very plain version of "vi". The config files should be in the /etc directory. Though you may be able to tftp a modified file off the tftp server which would likely save you some trouble. Remember to save a copy of the original.
 
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frokbur said:
Confirmed: Router is blocking ports.

Used Proxy server and Proxycap and was able to log in and play.

Any ideas how to get around the blocking of these ports that doesn't use a proxy server?

The router isn't set to block these ports, so I'm thinking a program can open them?

Any help is appreciated, thanks
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Can you see if you can reset your router to it's original settings?

What model router are you using?

If nothing else, I'd go through each page of the router settings to see if something jumps out at me.
 
Boehm said:
Chances are your router is using VxWorks, a real time unix for mips chips. If so there were hacks for "downgrading" the firmware to a version with a shell. (The shell was removed because it became common knowledge that end users could manually set upload and download speeds to maximum on isp provided routers) You will have to google the change.

That said there are a couple of caveats;

1) It might be some proprietary crap made by linksys.

2) There may not be firmware available for your router

3) You will need to set up a tftp server on your network and force the router to look for it to download the software.

4) If there is firmware available, the text editor is probably "ed". This is the original editor made by Ken and Dennis in 1970. It only shows a line at a time.

Hopefully the google link will have some advice on it, because I have no intention of remembering how to use it. It will not be what you are used to.

If you are lucky it will be a very plain version of "vi". The config files should be in the /etc directory. Though you may be able to tftp a modified file off the tftp server which would likely save you some trouble. Remember to save a copy of the original.
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He might not have to go to that extent. A lot of the consumer model routers are set to access everything via browser. You can even update the firmware with it.
 
crunchy said:
. A lot of the consumer model routers are set to access everything via browser.
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No, they don't. They provide a limited set of choices based on what the manufacturer thinks is best for itself and it's friends in the industry.

Regardless, he hasn't provided the model number or an ACL. But has managed to set up a viable work around, so may have some competency. I assume he has gone through the owners manual, but if not should. Then will have to google a solution.

That solution may be hard, because it appears the manufacturer has decided to filter ports by default and not allow the option to disable. He might want to just stick with the work around.
 
I have a BEFW11S4 v4. Linksys only carries the most "up to date" firmware on their website.

I did some research on the new and old firmware, and I then realized that the newer firmware would be "up to date" but not an upgrade. There are people all over the internet begging for a rollback version. Apparently other firmware causes some sort of stalling of the router.

To upgrade the firmware you must download the firmware, then upload it onto the router, but it won't allow you to upload an older version. You would have to set it to factory defaults and hope for a version of firmware that is effective (to rollback).

Yes, I have gone through the owners manual front to back, and also done quite a bit of internet research.

It is a lot of information to sift through... from people that have no idea what routers are to people setting up networks.

I used a Socks V5 with a proxy server combined to work around my router. I don't mind using it like this but the problem is the limited connectivity flow with a proxy server. In busy hours the connection would be weak/minimal without a subscription.

I am about fairly certain there aren't any settings that are blocking ports within my control, but I can send you some pics to look over.

I will do a little more research on some ways to get around it, if none seem reasonable... it may be time to reinvest in a new router.

I do appreciate the time you guys put into this by the way.
 
Linksys BEFW11S4 v4 FCC ID: PKW-BEFW11S4V4 Marvell 88W8500 CPU Only has 1MB flash chip

Pretty much impossible. This is a very cheaply made router.
The chip write up made me rofl;

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The 88W8500 device is a single chip that combines the functions of the Direct Sequence Spread Spectrum (DSSS) baseband processor, Medium Access Control (MAC) processor, on-chip CPU, on-chip memory, advanced encryption, external SDRAM/FLASH memory controller, and one Fast Ethernet port (MAC and PHY). The high level of integration reduces the overall Bill of Materials (BOM) cost for an access point by eliminating the need for an external CPU and Fast Ethernet port for wired infrastructure connectivity.
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This is so ghetto. rotflmao. I, especially, like the "advanced encryption".
 
Well, you haven't made absolutely sure it's not your provider or the dns service.

If you have a spare router around, you could try it and see if it works, even if it's an older slower model.

Or hook up your machine directly to the net long enough to see if you can login and play.

If that works, you can be positive it's the router.


Once you know it's the router, and doing a full reset doesn't help, you might want to just replace it, unless you want to spend more time messing with it. New routers aren't expensive.
 
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