Song: Brusco's Overbearing Bellow

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SprintFun

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At level 63 Bards get a new upgrade in the Brusco's department, although I would use that term very loosly. As per the spell parser:
200 mana
4.0 sec stun
263-265 base damage

Which doesn't seem terrible but compare it to the level 55 song it replaces (Brusco's Bombastic Bellow)
100 mana
4.0 sec stun
227 to 232 base damage

So, to sum up the meat of my problem it is 100 more mana for 33 more base damage at lvl 65...that seems like quite a head scratcher to me. I realize theres two other factors at work here, 1. bards don't use mana for much else and 2. with AAs that 32 damage difference can become bigger, but it stilll doesn't seem like much of an upgrade.

I would like to see it's damage raised to an even 300 or reduce the mana to the 150 range.
 
The info seems like it may be a little off.  I'm not sure what the base dmg is but with singing AA's I get 477 dmg, with no instrument mods.  If I were to guess, I'd say the base is probably around 400 or so.  Also, it's effect is a fear not a stun.
 
I got my info off of the SoD Spell Parser, so it could be wrong but I didn't just pull the numbers out of my ass. With singing AAs I also do 477 dmg, with the 55 Brscuo's I do 417dmg for 100 less mana.
 
I just got this song the other day and have yet to see it hit for more than 298 without an instrument. I really don't see this as an upgrade worth using for 2x the mana, especially since fear isn't enabled in most zones.
 
Oops, I stand corrected. I was thinking in comparison to the 39 song.

But yeah, the 55 song should be brought into line with the newer Brusco songs.
 
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Always breaking my balls rab :eek: I'd be interested what the 63 vs 55 song does when instrument mods are taken into effect (Djinni voice, Seraphic voice, puppet, etc.) Maybe Gindaddy could post a little comparrison?
 
With the highest wind modifier (flute of the fribbit), they are 783 for 55 and 894 for 63 version, with zorez'ad they are 678 for 55 and 775 for 63. There maybe other differences such as resist mod, but atm my spell parser is being a bit buggy so i can't check

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For a true statistical analysis, I would suggest a chart with each Brusco's level, the mana it takes, and the damage it does. Just comparing the 55 and 63 makes it look like it's not too good, but I'd like to see them all.

P.S. I'd do it but I don't have a spell parser, okay?
 
Brusco's Boastful Bellow (12) - 7-33DD, 0 mana
Brusco's Braggart Bellow (25) - 35-75 DD, 25 mana (3DD per 1 mana)
Brusco's Arrogant Bellow (39) - 119-132 DD, 50 mana (2.64 DD per 1 mana)
Brusco's Bombastic Bellow (55) - Stun 4.0s, 227-232 DD, 100 mana (2.32 DD per 1 mana)
Brusco's Overbearing Bellow (63) - Stun 4.0s, 263-265DD, 200 mana (1.325DD per 1 mana)

This info from the SoD Spell Parser, and it doesn't mention that any of these fear btw...
 
SprintFun said:
and it doesn't mention that any of these fear btw...
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Because they don't

Another thing to look at is recast, I'm not certain but I think the 63 version has about half the recast time of the 55 version. Allowing you to burn your mana 4x as fast for a little more dps. NOt to mention what the resist mods are.
I'm going to throw my 2cp in and ask for more mana efficiency considering most bards with it do not yet have a djinni voice/zorez'ad (maybe cloak of the wind) to notice any real reason use the 63 version ever.
 
55 is 18 recast, 63 is 10 recast...the 39 one is 0 recast and more mana efficient...thinknig of using it for groups :dance:
 
Crap, I guess it isn't a fear.  I just messed around with it while kiting a couple mobs.  When it hits, the mobs appears to take off running but then warps back to where it was, so it's probably just lag related.  Even more reason not to use it,  I guess.

The 39 song is great for added dps in groups when your aggro isn't an issue, but I think it might have a small knockback.  Not enough to cause chaos but just enough to piss off a tank : P
 
They all have a knockback of "1" I think. What you see happens is because them ob is running when stunned...if they are not moving when they get stunned they will just turn a different direction.
 
So the verdict is, for sustained DPS use the level 39 one, if the mob needs stunnage use the 55 one?

Interesting that not only is the mana ratio better, the recast delay is better, too. Then again, since the Brusco's line has always felt like "bonus dmg" to me, I'm not sure I'm complaining.
 
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