Since balancing forum is locked posting balancing issue here

hephasteus said:
Thanks for analyzing my thought processes from the persepctive you live in. Cause it's so wrong that it's funny.
Thanks for writing so incoherently that even MMO players couldn't understand the convoluted thoughts you attempted to blurt out all at once. Because it's so horribly written that it's funny.
 
Re: Since balancing forum is locked posting balancing issue

Allielyn said:
hephasteus said:
clerics in healer tank combos can load up loot well past thier encumberance figures while casters doing this will find themselves in big trouble and when gold takes the form of 8 stone wt loot tables

I'm not sure what you're getting at here, tbh. Pretty much all classes with Gate or ports are at a huge advantage in this respect, and all pure casters certainly aren't taking major hits if they're overweight. Mind elaborating? Because this point in particular struck me as Really odd.

P.S. is it bad for some classes to be able to do some things better than others? Yes, Clerics can heal better than Druids or Shamans. Then again, Clerics can't port, nor can they canni. /shrug. What's your point?

Ok. I'll speak more clearly. Clerics have gate. Cleric in duo's can loots everything way past encumberance. Cleric doesn't have agro and person running tank can taunt anything off it in 2 rounds anyway so person controlling cleric doesn't really care. What strikes me as odd is why people even put armor on thier clerics when they duo a cleric tank. What the heck is wrong with dressing them in a suit of silk or ultralight hopper hide or leaving them naked. They don't have hardly any defense skill anyway. Then they could loot EVERY corpse the group kills collect tons of plat and overpay for things that are meaningless powerwise and mechanics wise. If you don't think being overwieght affects the damage that a caster takes then you're not paying attention in the game.. Should every combo work as efficiently as every other combo? No. Should resists be where they are when changing them a bit wouldnt overly advantage anyone and would simply level playing field a bit. I don't see anything wrong with that.. Am I way off base here. No. Is what im saying some big threat to national securiity? You'd think it was by peoples reactions.
 
What the hell are you talking about? Clerics should be nerfed because they might be able to ninja loot all corpses if they don't wear plate?
 
You're trying to justify resist changes on the grounds of how much certain duos can loot? ahahahhahahahhaaha
 
Re: Since balancing forum is locked posting balancing issue

hephasteus said:
What strikes me as odd is why people even put armor on thier clerics when they duo a cleric tank. What the heck is wrong with dressing them in a suit of silk or ultralight hopper hide or leaving them naked.

Hint: Gear gives +stats. +stats tends to mean performing your class role better. More mana, more healing, fewer people dying. If there's some grand cosmic imbalance due to the fact you have a cleric-bot plooting for that extra 5 gold that would've rotted or made your tank run slower, I wish someone would've told me.

hephasteus said:
If you don't think being overwieght affects the damage that a caster takes then you're not paying attention in the game.. Should every combo work as efficiently as every other combo? No. Should resists be where they are when changing them a bit wouldnt overly advantage anyone and would simply level playing field a bit. I don't see anything wrong with that.

Know what that sound was? That's the sound of shifting gears without a clutch. The encumbering segue to resists is quite impressive as a COMPLETE LOGIC DISCONNECT.

hephasteus said:
Am I way off base here.
You're miles away from base getting wasted at the local bar, apparently.

hephasteus said:
Is what im saying some big threat to national securiity?
Possibly
 
I understand what he is saying unfortunatly this has been cryed about in every RPG since the creation of our great MMORPG world. The problem is that the usual suspects that state these points dont like the playing the classes with the "balance" problem. I bot a war/cleric everyday...... I like my plate on my cleric for 2 reasons..... the stats are pretty good for the effort i had to put into them, and 2 if our group wipes my ac with my DB spell usually lets me zone with out dying with 2 hits with your "silk heavy armor".
Unfortunatly your trade off for spells is your lack of str..... just like mine trade off for the str is my crap resist and my non gating fat ogre butt(but the Plat items makes that no biggie <3 ). And just to let you know my cleric is a HE and cant loot anything with ful plate on and i did this on purpase as well. Being that i do 2box them i only loot with my war so it is fair to the group. Im not the only one working so im not the only one looting.

Best thing to do is a) either get str gear like stated above
b) Roll one of these uber "looting classes"
or c) Remove the nails from your hand, climb off your cross, build a bridge with it and get over it.

Your beating a dead horse that started with God's creation of RPGs :brow:
 
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