Shadowknight & Necromancer buff ?

Dzillon

Dalayan Master
I would like to request something I find lackluster with Necromancers - an actual buff for a group / raid.
So far the only spell a necro can cast for some form of usefulness is the well known DMF , unique in its kind, but with several problems that make it situational - levitation in many zones forbidden that you won't get the poison resist in, the enduring breath being discarded in many fights that require it, the druid Flight of Eagles that will obviously be prefered for basic travelling will overwrite it...

I know necromancers aren't suppose to be buff kings and might rather keep their stuff to them. I still do believe we could use some kind of beneficial spell for a group, maybe a raid - a minor one, but that could be used in all places.

I've thought it a bit regarding the spells we already use and the mechanics involved in SoD's necromancy. I found that it could be some kind of upgrade to Vampiric Embrace (24hp lifetap melee proc) which we get at level 8 and does not evolve afterwards. This would be a spell that rivals Wizard's Blades of War, so obviously it should be lower - I was thinking betwen strike of Poison/Scourge and Magi , being a lifetap around the level of Shroud of the Death (55 SK self lifetap proc), possibly with a little mana drain component - 65hp 25mana for example.
Now I foresee this will be seen as giving too much to a class that already has a lot, I anticipated by making this an illusion more like lvl 55 Shroud of the Undeath for SK's (again bringing stacking issues to a spell) that could be a lich-like system, with -hp +mana - I supposed the base of SK's Deathly Temptation (-6hp +6mana) or Nec's Call to Bones (-8 hp +8 mana) would fit, as it is already attainable through clickies.
This would bring more a flavor of the necro making his undead army on the field ( did I watch Game of Thrones too much last night ? maybe so) .
To be fair, SK's are the only casting class with zero beneficial spell for the crowd. I was thinking to have a lower version based on Allure of Death (-4hp +4mana) with a lower lifetap (45hp 15mana) - maybe even not granting an illusion ?

SK's would still have much better alternatives for themselves, and necros could have a better one for themselves than the current low-level spell and play the ghetto wizard when one is not around.

I know there is no real reason to implement this and there's already much work on the plate for devs. Just wanted to see how this idea could be considered. All other classes have at least one spell they can bestow to the crowd . Undead illusions + taps really sound like love we would spread to the world !
 
At least then RBoW could be SBed to raids. I find it bizarre that Rangers and Beastlords can SB buffs yet the all-powerful bringer of Moon Comets can't. o_O
The AA from live that Soulbond replaced was mass group buff and the only group targeted spells wizards had were ports, so it makes sense that they don't have it.
 
If you are a necromancer who doesn't cast mind wrack in groups or on raids, you are being a less than good necromancer. MW and DMF are plenty of buffing awesomeness, in my opinion.

That said, more things that spam AEs should probably have mana to drain.
 
I was not entering into discussion about any low duration recourses we can get. It's simply asking for a some kind of actual buff to have some usefulness during buff phases - SSS SV, WON FOCUS, DRU or MAG damage shield... why not an alternative in the proc area, or an alternative to JB - but group or even raidwide , that would waste something similar to WIZ's BoW. If it should be something to use the Soulbond ability that is currently not super useful for a necro to DMF with, then it has to be without the illusion idea - it's just that I felt it was cool.
@Thade Regarding the slots used by Mindwrack and Vortex, I really don't believe there's a problem here as they are not related with buffs but more with other recourses / abilities (I see Paragon not stacking with Vortex for example).

(@enasc I use Mindwrack when mobs permit, but again Mindwrack is no way related to what I propose, it's a recourse with a low duration and a recast, I'm asking for an actual buff to stay on many people for at least an hour, and give the ability to lifetap a bit and potentially mana drain - and why not having a mana regen component, but on a slot that would fight with JB / Lich)
 
If wizards didn't have to bitch about casting RBoW on wipes what else would they do in between pulling aggro and dying and complaining about wanting a mana break?

I'll donate to give necros RBoW. The bards who die every other pull can start bothering them instead of me ;)
 
Imo take RBoW away from wizards and give it to necros. I mean, I'd be happy anyway.
yes please do this! Necros can SB it would all work out so well! I wont get bothered to cast RBOW all the time

But seriourly... this seems like a very unrealistic request. Necros are alreay pretty amazing, tons of utility, good dps, etc. And there are lots of raids where I use DMF. The class really doesn't need another buff...
 
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