Could the ATK proc buff on Screamstrike be changed to a bard song? As it is melee have a hard enough time finding slots for buffs and for a hybrid like BST's it's even worse, and it's especially bad considering the proc rate doesn't even keep it on fulltime so you are sacrificing a buff slot for a buff that isn't even there a lot of the time.
Screamstrike proc request
- Thread starter soba
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If the screamstrike proc can't be made into a bard buff could the proc rate be massively upped,and changed to a pure ATK buff on yourself instead of a tap (no chance of resisting)? Having to dedicate a buff slot to a buff that happens maybe once every 3 fights that only lasts 1 minute is more of a detriment than a benefit, unless that was the intention behind the buff.Anything I could possibly click to make room for this buff would be 3x more useful,if only because it actually stays on me.
Also what was the reasoning before for not having these as bard buffs?
Also what was the reasoning before for not having these as bard buffs?
Its just one of those little 'boy this is annoying but what choice do I have' things.
As Soba said, In general, most items that proc short duration 'buffs' are more of a pita than anything else.
Just about any alternate buff we already have is more useful, just because it'll be there the entire fight, and boy do the chanters bitch when giantkin doesn't land because this (or warcry then this, etc) shits up my last buff slot.
Only VERY rarely am I ever in a raid with three bards.
Sticking a few (or all) of these short duration (1-2 min) procs into bard slots would make pretty much every end-game melee say OMG THANK YOU.
As Soba said, In general, most items that proc short duration 'buffs' are more of a pita than anything else.
Just about any alternate buff we already have is more useful, just because it'll be there the entire fight, and boy do the chanters bitch when giantkin doesn't land because this (or warcry then this, etc) shits up my last buff slot.
Only VERY rarely am I ever in a raid with three bards.
Sticking a few (or all) of these short duration (1-2 min) procs into bard slots would make pretty much every end-game melee say OMG THANK YOU.
Cinn
Banned Jerk
Xeldan said:
no, this is more a "wouldn't it be nice" post.
It's not going to happen though. If the screamstrike for whatever random reason got changed to go into your song slot 10,000 other posts would spring up about short duration beneficial buffs and their dire need to be changed as well.
This isnt really a suggestion, more of a melee's wet dream.
It is simply a change that would benefit the populus as a whole. No melee wants random items non-predictably shitting up their buff slots.
Is there really a reason for them to be spells instead of songs in the first place, or was it just the way it started?
If there isn't a reason, then the only question would be is the time it will take from a dev / item designer worth it?
Is there really a reason for them to be spells instead of songs in the first place, or was it just the way it started?
If there isn't a reason, then the only question would be is the time it will take from a dev / item designer worth it?
Cinn said:
Just because 10,000 other posts would spring up for other items buffs to be changed isn't a reason for it not to be changed for the Screamstrike, the staff aren't going to suddenly fold and start adding it willy nilly.
Some items DO need this change and I believe Screamstrike to be one of them, the proc it provides is a DETRIMENT not a benefit especially to hybrid classes that gain benefit from a wider range of buffs which leads to an even more cramped buff bar.
Xeldan said:
The reason I'm the first to be so vocal about this is because the only hybrid on this item is Beastlords, this is still somewhat of an annoyance for pure melee but their buff bars aren't as packed with buffs as ours are so the problem is exacerbated for us.
I realize that bard buff slots are limited to 6 songs but after the melody change you'd need 3 bards in your raid to cap out, something that as Alton has said is extremely rare and something that in groups situations I have never seen happen.This is a powerful option available to item developers that isn't being utilized due to what were once valid concerns when bards could juggle 4 or 5 buffs all by themselves.If this option were used sparingly it would be of great benefit to hybrids and melee since unfortunately we're restricted by the client to our measly 16 buffs.
robopirateninja
Staff Emeritus
A better solution would be to add two or three buff slots that can only have procced short duration buffs in them, but I don't know if that is possible. Then you wouldn't have stacking issues with other buffs or bard songs, but it wouldn't be a blanket increase in buff slots, which would be difficult to balance what with all the overriding spell lines and whatnot.
I would really really like to see this go in because i sometimes find myself having to switch this great weapon on just to survive on some encounters cause i need other spell over a proc to stay on me like resists. Bard song area can never be filled really so it would be great and i dont' see any future problems implementing this.
I basically agree with everything that everyone has said. I also find myself clicking off some buffs that may be beneficial for some encounters simply so I can keep an extra slot for the possibility of this proccing, giantkin / elixer of bliss. An item like this should be a blessing due to the proc, but in some cases it can be a pain.