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Tecnodoc

Dalayan Adventurer
First of... Omg im gonna be flamed so badly now.

Ok first of all, bare with me a little. Lets say there is a guild (maybe 18 players) full of adults with jobs, children and that sort of thing. Lets say they live in on the eastcost of the stats. Now lets say they would like to raid 3 days a week - Monday, Wedensday and Saturday. Now they cant really raid all that "early" - lets say 7pm UTC + 8, since they have all the above stuff to attend to. Lets put them at Tier 6.

Ok now that is sortet the problem is this. What are they supose to do in game since there is nothing for them to raid? Everytime they log on to play with there friends and kill some dragons. All they can do is stand around in attica and talk in /gu about how lame it is that there is nothing at all to kill again 10th raid day in a row.
At tier 6 there is a problem with targets - the probem gets only worse and worse as you go up in the tiers. Tier 9 has nearly no targets and what 5 guilds killing them? Tier 10 and 11 will be even worse.

Now ofc there are alot of way to fix this problem. Let me list some. First some that is for the players.


Play more noobs!!! - Well that dosent really work all that well as we are talking about someone that dosent have the time to play more - i.e Casuals

Do T-maps!! - This is a wonderfull idear and a great part of this great game, only problem is that the tmaps run out of usefull items kind of fast. Maybe add some more T-maps, Fantasticly difficult, super difficult and Ludacrisly difficult anyone? =)

Raid at othere times!!! - Again, work and kids...

Don't raid, if your not hardcore the is no raids for yo!!! Well then what is there to do, play anothere game maybe?

Raid Iksith, lots of fantastic tier6+ content there!!! - Where??? Maybe if it was accessible for anyone and not only for the most hardcore of the hardcore.

There is only the raid content there is ingame for a reason, it is supose to be hard to get a target to kill!!! - Well honestly that is just dumb, the game is all about raiding and killing the dragons. If you have to be lucky even to have a chance to try to do that, then what is the point?

Ok, let me list some for the Devs ect...

Tmaps!! - See above, this would be a really nice fix.

More tricker spawns! - Some targets that like tmaps are not depending on respawn times.

Instances! - Lol welcome to wow, not really an option im thinking - although maybe the "best" fix.

Faster Boss spawns! - 3days insted of 4 or maybe 2days even. No problems with adding new fantastic content and still sort of the same effect.

Casuals cant get raid targets that is working as intented!!! - Well ok then maybe anothere game would be better for 80% of the server population.

Now all this may just be the grublings of an old man. But please do something, we have nothing to do in game and we are starting to think "what is the potin of even logging on anymore, if there is nothing to do in this game?"
What im wondering is, why all this work to get more players in when the content cant even support the number that plays now?

Any thourts anyone?

EDIT: OK SORRY WE ARE TIER 10!!!!!!11111oneoneeleven

/brace for flame!
 
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there is more low-midtier content in the game now than there has been ever before.. do rust, do valor, do water, do entropy, do outer prison, do earth, do sepulcher, do CoD, do nightmare, do air, do fire... you can't believe that all of this is rots or down 3 nights a week.

and this: "Raid Iksith, lots of fantastic tier6+ content there!!! - Where??? Maybe if it was accessible for anyone and not only for the most hardcore of the hardcore." is just stupid. the t5-6 content in ikisith is available to anyone.

in fact here i will just list the ikisith targets that are rated as tier 5-6 raid targets: Skirish`Ka, steel-skinned arenodon, The Elael Stalker, and Storm Tyrant Jor (t7ish). there are a wide vareity of other targets from tier 0 (dragon remains) up to tier 9-10 (kurtail). this is a really old dumb argument about ikisith raid content being only for the hardcore time for it to die.
 
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This thread has a significant amount of bad information already.

There are plenty of targets ALWAYS up. If your tier 6 ED maps can be a very legit way of progression and I find it really hard to believe they are not up, I also know certain fights in certain zones stay up for ridiculous amounts of time (yo pofire/earth/entropy). I like how people say tier congestion gets worse but I still see bosses remaining in upper thaz all the time. Tier 10 is basically untouched outside one boss and only 3/4 guilds to this point have really killed a tier 11 boss. So maybe confirm shit instead of making assumptions.


Tecnodoc said:
There is only the raid content there is ingame for a reason, it is supose to be hard to get a target to kill!!! - Well honestly that is just dumb, the game is all about raiding and killing the dragons. If you have to be lucky even to have a chance to try to do that, then what is the point?
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There are many who will flat out disagree with you on this and in fact tell you that you're dumb. I'm one of them. You do not need luck, you require balls and ambition and the dedication to see that through. Yes this game caters to people in their moms basement with lots of time to waste.

As for the rest of you're post I don't care enough to read it or reply to it.
 
Tecnodoc said:
Raid Iksith, lots of fantastic tier6+ content there!!! - Where??? Maybe if it was accessible for anyone and not only for the most hardcore of the hardcore.
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There is like AT LEAST one early to mid range outdoor raid mob in every Ikisith zone I have entered and all of these are fightable with just the solo entry flag so you are very misinformed here.

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Tmaps!! - See above, this would be a really nice fix.
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Tmaps basically span from like tier 0-7 sooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Tecnodoc said:
Casuals cant get raid targets that is working as intented!!! - Well ok then maybe anothere game would be better for 80% of the server population.
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We have all thought about this at one time or another but this is just the reality with the exception that it's not even close to that severe. Casual players can indeed get raid targets. In fact I would say that I reached tier 10 in a casual guild as a casual player.


Also I just want to say don't discount people disagreeing with you as "flaming" because it's not. It can be very frustrating to balance progressing in this game with obligations in real life but if content didn't decompress at such a slow rate players would burn through it that much faster and then no one would have anything to do.
 
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Rorne said:
Also I just want to say don't discount people disagreeing with you as "flaming" because it's not. It can be very frustrating to balance progressing in this game with obligations in real life but if content didn't decompress at such a slow rate players would burn through it that much faster and then no one would have anything to do.
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I agree =)

I also realized that i shot myself by listing myself as tier 6, we are infact tier 10.


"lack of targets means you arent looking hard enough" well, lets just say i disagree with this and dont find it usefull =).

Otcho, Man you post in every topic dude =). Also i alrdy stated that we had runout of stuff to get from ED maps. But thanks for the input.

Slaariel, you rock dude, that is no joke - But remember if everyone but a select few are saying it, it dosent matter if it is true or not - That is just how it is. Now could i just get you to name the targets for tier 8 to 10 please =) a zone where to find them would also be really nice. Ofc if you need to do hatesfury 6man to get to them, you dont need to tell me. Just see my comment about accessibility from before.
 
the limited access ikisith raid content starts at tier 10 (mayyyyyyybe late late tier 9... maybe,.... but no it's 10). tiers 8-10 are well-represented in the old world though ;p and if you can't make it through hates fury you have no business worrying about getting into yclist.

o forgot to add, there is still t9ish content in ikisith anyway that is open to everyone and kurtail the exiled is tier 10 and is in field of bone on the island there you go good luck have fun
 
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i had seen farhags up for days
there are almost always UT bosses up

RAID UNDERCITY YOU PUSSIES

do back end of pofire

holy shit man up and go to ikisith, if you are really tier 10 you should have no problem doing hates fury
 
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tiers 8-10 are well-represented in the old world though ;p and if you can't make it through hates fury you have no business worrying about getting into yclist.
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Ya well... As i was saying. There are not enough targets in the oldworld (see my first post) and we are Casual. getting 18 players with about 30 char through Lamefury 6man has nothing to do with casuals, it is infacet a freak ton of hard work that takes days and days and days. Dont think i havent ben to hatesfury 6man - have alot of times, it is no joke and a compleat wombat. So ya. There you have it accessibility.

Slaariel said:
o forgot to add, there is still t9ish content in ikisith anyway that is open to everyone and kurtail the exiled is tier 10 and is in field of bone on the island there you go good luck have fun
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Nice... if only i knew what them tier 9 targets was... hint, hint =)

"UT bosses up

RAID UNDERCITY YOU PUSSIES

do back end of pofire

holy shit man up and go to ikisith, if you are really tier 10 you should have no problem doing hates fury " -Gtoo

No there isent.

WE ARE!

We are.

And see above =)
 
You don't have to do hatesfury 6 man to raid your tier stuff in Iksith. Tier 4 - 7 stuff is up in the old world all the time. Maybe you guys are not tracking all of the stuff you could be raiding.
 
you only need to get 1 person thru all the quests including hf to get into yclist.

also raiding several hours 3 nights a week is actually pretty hardcore. i mean i am not in TU but i understand they raid 2-3 times a week. when i ran goon squad we had 2 raid days a week (sometimes we did more, but 2 was base). like it or not, you are out of excuses.
 
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you only need to get 1 person thru all the quests including hf to get into yclist..
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Is "all the quests" = 200+ hours of grinding quests like in the murk with atleast 1 group and with no apperent gain othere then maybe a flag to somewhere you dont know about?


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also raiding several hours 3 nights a week is actually pretty hardcore. i mean i am not in TU but i understand they raid 2-3 times a week. when i ran goon squad we had 2 raid days a week (sometimes we did more, but 2 was base). like it or not, you are out of excuses.
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Well, that may be, be we do hardly anything else. Log on to raid or dont log on. Not much random group grinding, not much farming endlessly for cash and more then anything - No massive grinding of cryptic quests. 60% of our guild base havent done CoI/BS/SC quest augs, most havent sworn to a diety and nearly noone has above 108k charms... I dont think that is much in terms of hardcore.

I may need to add here that we dont have much interms of problem in slaying the stuff of our tier when we find it up... the reason why we have problem is that there is nothing up to kill. Nothing to raid, no targets to clubber, no dragons to slay, No deamons to banish and no gods to best. That is the problem.
 
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Well, that may be, be we do hardly anything else. Log on to raid or dont log on. Not much random group grinding, not much farming endlessly for cash and more then anything - No massive grinding of cryptic quests. 60% of our guild base havent done CoI/BS/SC quest augs, most havent sworn to a diety and nearly noone has above 108k charms... I dont think that is much in terms of hardcore.
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Welcome to the fabulous world of being in a guild with a dire lack of ambition.
 
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Is "all the quests" = 200+ hours of grinding quests like in the murk with atleast 1 group and with no apperent gain othere then maybe a flag to somewhere you dont know about?
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Who is your tier 10 guildand what is your player name!!!

Also I can tell you that at the very least you can obtain a gate item to ikisith via the murk quests which is pretty damn handy.
 
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Welcome to the fabulous world of being in a guild with a dire lack of ambition.
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Umm or a group casuals that dont have more then maybe 10 or so hours to play a week? I think i started out by saying this. Interesting you should comment on this part... I would much like it if you added something the to problem rathere then stating something like this =). Im not flaming you dont get me wrong. I just dont really see the point in your post.

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Also I can tell you that at the very least you can obtain a gate item to ikisith via the murk quests which is pretty damn handy.
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- is that a massrelocate gate? or a single guy gate (as in, all of the guild have to grind hard and long -dont laugh- )
 
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I want to know what zones you guys are scouting, because we found almost 4 zones which contained full pops in the tier7-9 range last night
 
Dude, if your "mystery guild" does in fact have 18 people on, three nights a week and you cannot find anything to kill, you got problems.
 
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