Proposal for mage relic (replacing til's elemental ward)

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Zhak Morris

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I started this thread because of the response that quite a few high end mages gave in this thread: http://www.shardsofdalaya.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8162&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Most of the mages were dissappointed with this relic, and while I understand that Wiz is in no way obligated in changing relics because people simply aren't happy, I feel too that the relic just isn't up to par with the average "power" so to speak of the relic line.

What I'd like to propose is that the current mage relic Til's Elemental Ward be changed to a relic burnout ( pet haste ).

Currently the top pet haste in game for mages is a level 60 ancient spell and being that mages are the "king/queen" of pets, it's kind've a dissappointment that you get your top pet haste long before you even hit max level.


Stats for Ancient: Burnout Blaze

80str
80% haste
40atk
22ac

What I'd like to propose for Relic Burnout is SOMETHING alone these lines

100str
135% haste
80atk
60ac

I've talked with over a half dozen 65 mages about their thoughts on the Til's elemental ward spell and what they thought about my proposal for this relic and got a lot of positive feedback and responses on it, so I figured I'd go ahead and make a S & R post about it

Thanks for your time,
Zhak & Raliele

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Absolutely no relic haste.

Til's Elemental Ward is not going to get replaced, it's a good relic, and not every relic should be stellar.
 
o well for the long i quit post for nothing ^_^

Theres one thing u can not beat and thats the addiction of EverquesT.

So i went WoW and not looked back yet.
 
Relics are fine if u ask me for the level off difficult mobs.

Then theres room for improvement for new content maybe level raise.
 
His idea sounds good to me,i mean,magicians are pet focused,and the only relic we get related to it is the pet itself,looked reasonable to me we could get something that made it better;if not replacing tils (which i dont consider as beein worth of using relic spot,even knowin my opnion doesnt matter at all) it could amo be worth for a future relic idea or something.
 
I think Zhak had a lot of good points. The mages who are affected by the addition of Til's Elemental Ward aren't really thrilled about it. If Wiz puts it in stone that it's not going away, I guess that's the end of that particular subject though. All the same, as *the* pet class, I would like to see more relics focused on our pets. Perhaps a heal that replaces the AE, or bump the DS out of relic status. As far as the pet haste goes, exactly how much more dps would it be adding? Would whatever that increase is be an unbalancing change?
 
I think this relic is ok. I'm not sure about replacing it or not, but mages definitely don't need a better pet haste. Their ancient haste is awesome as it is. It's an absolute must have spell already.
 
Not every suggestion gets a great reaction, I still think it's a good suggestion because I don't feel Til's is on par with the relic line, but oh well.. win some you lose some
 
Now that Til's stacks with druid Shroud of Seasons, it has a lot more usefulness. We do have a history of self-only FR/CR buffs and the +250 mana is just a sweetener. The relic isn't OMG AWESOME but its still a very nice spell and with the +mana I think it is worthy of "relic" status.
 
Their ancient haste is awesome as it is. It's an absolute must have spell already.
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beastlords get a better pet haste /shrug

5% more haste, 150 more AC, 10 more ATK, 20 more str.. it's also vendor bought instead of a turn-in :p
 
Momatose said:
Their ancient haste is awesome as it is. It's an absolute must have spell already.
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beastlords get a better pet haste /shrug

5% more haste, 150 more AC, 10 more ATK, 20 more str.. it's also vendor bought instead of a turn-in :p
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And that has to do with the mage relic for what reason....?
 
it has to do with it because i'm pointing out that mages don't get the best haste spell

would you like me to hold your hand?

here, i'll clarify. mages currently don't get the best pet haste, so that leads me to believe that they're balanced with that in mind, you have pet AAs that already make mages the strongest.. if you give them a +55% haste bonus to their pet then that puts them infinitely further ahead of the other pet classes.
 
Raherin (who plays a mage I'd like to add) said that Ancient: Burnout Blaze was fine as is and that it was a must have. He said nothing that would warrent an arguement like "Beastlords get a better pet haste ..."

With that being said, you don't need to get sassy with a staff member to make a point that is not only unrelated to the topic at hand, but ultimately a moot point when Wiz already stated:

Wiz said:
Absolutely no relic haste.

Til's Elemental Ward is not going to get replaced, it's a good relic, and not every relic should be stellar.
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I also play a mage, and not that it matters at this point, but a stackable +55 CR/FR and +250 mana Relic is nothing to scoff at (as Liam said in another thread). I'm not sure how others feel (and this isn't the thread to discuss it), but if I wanted the best pet class on the server I would have rerolled as a Beastlord. :shrug:
 
Duma said:
This relic stinks so bad I stopped playing my mage a year and a half before it came out.
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Are you competing with Rambler for shittiest poster of the forums award or something?
 
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