New aggro code = strange
- Thread starter Fjodor
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Well, let's take an example.Melwin said:
You ran through Faentharc Woods, from stormkeep to Bancak Mines, anyway, some 1 group has pulled eh... the dragon from it's original spawn spot and you just happend to pass it's aggro range (that is kinda big), when you are about to zone into Bancak, the 1 group has managed to wipe on eh... the dragon, and you get summoned and beated to a none existing liveing thingy. Now, you didn't run where that dragon normaly spawns but as he was pulled you manage to run in his/hers/it's aggro range (still you might not even have notised it), it's alot of trees in that area. Now is that normal ? Where is the risk vs award in that ?
Risk = a 1 group that couldn't do the dragon wiped and has pulled it out from it's normal spawn spot and you just happend to pass by so while moveing from 1 area to another where it's normaly safe you risk being summoned over the whole zone because you where traveling.
Reward = eh... only award that could come out this is the exp dept if the ones trying the dragon wipe, if they make the kill you can't really claim any loot. So tell, me isn't this just a little bit silly ?
Wiz
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Fjodor said:
Okay, let's get super-hypothetical.
You could be running through faentharc and this group pulled Kloie and right as you were running past the fight not noticing and getting into her aggro range she killed the last person in the group and then she comes and eats you.
Using the same risk/reward statements as above I should remove mob aggro altogether.
Great argument.
HarpTheBard
Dalayan Beginner
I always thought Mob's couldn't summon a person unless they have done damage to that MoB, or healed someone damaging said mob. Did this change?
One way I liked the old agro was because it made a little RP sense.
The monster is pursuing it's victim/s in anger and doesn't take notice to innocent bystanders, and if after it kills it's targets (If the bystander runs away) the monster either forgets or doesn't know where it's possible last target is.
To summon someone who is across the zone because they walked by seems like a very powerful monster to know where the person is after they queitly disappeared without hurting the mob in any way.
I guess mobs are just alot smarter now
P.S. What is a for sure way for a tank to take agro right away? At a raid I remember a level 68 mob being pulled and it made a beeline for me...I wasn't even siting down and there was about 30 people all around me. The mob came, looked at me, ran, I was stunned because I really didn't expect to get targeted out of a monk pulling it and a warrior actually trying to take agro when I was just standing in the middle of 30 other people. Also, I wasn't at the spot it was pulled too, it went about 20 feet out of it's way to attack me while two warriors chased it. ;(
The monster is pursuing it's victim/s in anger and doesn't take notice to innocent bystanders, and if after it kills it's targets (If the bystander runs away) the monster either forgets or doesn't know where it's possible last target is.
To summon someone who is across the zone because they walked by seems like a very powerful monster to know where the person is after they queitly disappeared without hurting the mob in any way.
I guess mobs are just alot smarter now
P.S. What is a for sure way for a tank to take agro right away? At a raid I remember a level 68 mob being pulled and it made a beeline for me...I wasn't even siting down and there was about 30 people all around me. The mob came, looked at me, ran, I was stunned because I really didn't expect to get targeted out of a monk pulling it and a warrior actually trying to take agro when I was just standing in the middle of 30 other people. Also, I wasn't at the spot it was pulled too, it went about 20 feet out of it's way to attack me while two warriors chased it. ;(
If you are KOS to a mob and run through its aggro range you now have aggro regardless whether you attacked it or not or it is already engaged with another group. Aggro on pulls isn't that bad, but when say.....a monk stands up after feigning Cilzaia and a Wyvern while someone is still healing them :roll: and Cilzaia makes a b-line straight for the cleric now the entire raid has aggro even if half the raid runs for safety without ever engaging. Instant total wipe.