Necro dot cast time.

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Snake

Dalayan Elder
Seems to me, that Necro dots are over all, very slow to cast.
Often I get of 1 or 2 dots, and they barely get to tick, before mobs are dead.
Its just so ungh.. slow.. argh cast already... tick already.. plz get the kill shot... ah ffs....

If its a raid mob with tons of HP that takes time to kill, then the Necro is ok, even good, suddently the dots start to actually matter.


Lets say for arguments sake, that the cast time on dots was lowered, by 50%... Would that double the Necro's dps?
Not even close, cause the dot is still gonna need time to do its damage, regardless how fast the Necro casts it.

If the same was done for say a Wizard, then yes, that would almost double his (or her) dps (yes there is a matter of the recast time... details, it would come Alot closer).

To over do it even more, lets say Necro spells where all instant, and instant recast, now would that make the Necro 10000x more dps? or even 100x more? No.. Still have to wait for the dot to deliver one tick at a time, but yeah, can put on 8 dots at once, and keep em up easy, and would tick for crazy amounts very fast...
But in no way near as impressive as a Wizard would be, if the same change was made to him (or her).


Bla bla bla... I think Necro dots could use a make over, casting time wise; would be sweet if they where alot faster.
Not sure how to do it, perhaps change the Leechstorm AA in to a 3/6/9 AA cost ability, that reduced all dots with cast time of 3 seconds or higher by 5% 15% 30%.

Or they could just be made faster in generel.


Thanks for reading :)
 
Yep, dots take some time to cast, but shortening cast time will not have a big impact on your dps if the monster is dead in 30 seconds.

Ywom is right, necromancers are just fine as is.
 
I guess I should look at this more in depth.

On most mobs we kill in SF with 3 necro's, at least 2 of us (not me :() will be on the top 5 DPS of the fight on everyone's parse. I'm sure we have different DoT rotations but it's mostly about keeping as many as you can per tick to try to match a Moon Comet. Raid fights have different amounts of HP so if you're gonna fight a guy with a million compared to 10 million, you should be prioritizing your higher dps dots than something as long as Scitterpox (64).

I have Casting Speed 8 and the slowest spell takes 5.5 seconds to cast, but is the longest lasting, my fastest dot takes 3.2 seconds; this is another thing to consider. Plus the server tick will not be on our side if the DoTs had a faster cast time.
 
I don't understand why my post was deleted. I was being supportive of an idea from a fellow player and wasn't negative in anyway so what gives?
 
I didn't see it lleoc, but knowing you, it just might have been because it was a super blatant troll.

As to the topic at hand... as others have said this is just part of the class.

Do necros kind of suck when fighting low hp mobs that die really fast? Yes of course!

However... they have *by far* the most efficient spell dps in the game, and amazing utility on top of that. They are a premier solo, 6man, and raid character at all points in the game.

Dot cast time is part of the balance of the class. It doesn't matter that necros wouldn't benefit as much as wizards would, because that is a comparison of apples and oranges. A big cut to DOT cast time would still be a huge nerf to what is already one of the strongest classes in the game. It would allow them to easily stack up and maintain all of their DOTs for maximum dps. As things are now, it really takes skill and extensive experience/class knowledge to rotate all the dots in an efficient order to maintain high dps, not miss tics on key spells, etc. It would also allow tons of extra time to try to do things like last hitting with lifetap, or using the various utility spells in the necro arsenal. As it is now, a necro has to make a decision and trade off between keeping dots up and using taps or utility.

Necros are a very strong class already, and are balanced around spell cast times. Changing this would be a massive buff, not a simple convenience.
 
I may have been trolling but when other ignorant people are allowed to make some of the dumbest suggestions and get support from other ignorant people they do not have their posts deleted supporting the idea. I thought this was America.

edit: i was just being supportive
 
Lleoc said:
I may have been trolling but when other ignorant people are allowed to make some of the dumbest suggestions and get support from other ignorant people they do not have their posts deleted supporting the idea. I thought this was America.

edit: i was just being supportive
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"I thought this was America" lol

Any private party has the right to restrict your speech on their own platforms as much as they want. Freedom of Speech prevents government censorship and / or retaliation. You're on someone elses forum, and they'll delete your garbage if they choose to.
 
try speccing into affliction, long cast times are what turn some people away from destruction spec
 
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