triptoy2002
Dalayan Adventurer
Rather than ressing an old thread...
Change to Marzin's Mark?
My cleric is fairly recently 60, and I managed to work up the money for Blessing of Aegolism. While looking in the spell vendor, I ran across Marzin's Mark. I assumed that since it was the same level as Aego it probably was the only symbol to stack with Aego, and so asked in guild if it stacked with WoN/Focus lines. Someone in DB clarified it for me by explaining that it did not stack with Aego, but if I couldnt work up the money to buy Blessing of Aegolism, I could very cheaply buy this spell, and use it along with Aegis (lvl57 ac) and Heroic Bond (lvl52 type 1 HP/AC), all of which are group spells.
So to buff a full group with HB+Aegis+Marzin's Mark:
1595 mana
17 seconds casting time
3 peridots
3 buff slots on my group members
=1125 HP/180 AC
vs
single target Aego:
3000 mana
39 seconds
3 peridots
1 buff slot
=1150 HP/200 AC
I think if I had noticed Marzin's Mark earlier, I still would have used the single target Aego as I have been doing while working up money for Blessing of Aegolism. Buff slots are a hot commodity, and groups are often willing to pitch in to make sure peridots are available, if cost is the issue. In the thread I mentioned above, there were some interesting ideas on how to make this spell into something more useful. From my perspective, the problem is that clerics don't get to make use of the group symbol until a time when it really isn't worth it to use. I have what I think is an easy fix to that problem.
I suggest:
1. Remove this spell entirely. If a new spell if thought up in time, great, implement it then, but avoid confusion now, and let Clerics have their group symbol.
2. Change the spell Symbol of Marzin (level 54) to a group version of what it already is, so a Cleric still gets the group symbol, but at a level when it is useful. Raise the mana cost to about 450-500, and have it use 3 reagents until such time as a decision on the reagent revamp is made.
I realize this would give Paladins the added bonus of having a group targetable symbol at 63, the level before they get the group targetable Heroic Bond (type 1). With the added mana cost and reagent consumption, and the fact that symbol doesnt stack with Aego, Paladins would still find this to be highly situational, and so I think it would cause little harm.
I also realize this does not make the spell more useful, rather I wanted to address the issue of Clerics not getting (worthwhile) group symbol, a feature someone obviously intended at one point for clerics to have and make use of.
Change to Marzin's Mark?
My cleric is fairly recently 60, and I managed to work up the money for Blessing of Aegolism. While looking in the spell vendor, I ran across Marzin's Mark. I assumed that since it was the same level as Aego it probably was the only symbol to stack with Aego, and so asked in guild if it stacked with WoN/Focus lines. Someone in DB clarified it for me by explaining that it did not stack with Aego, but if I couldnt work up the money to buy Blessing of Aegolism, I could very cheaply buy this spell, and use it along with Aegis (lvl57 ac) and Heroic Bond (lvl52 type 1 HP/AC), all of which are group spells.
So to buff a full group with HB+Aegis+Marzin's Mark:
1595 mana
17 seconds casting time
3 peridots
3 buff slots on my group members
=1125 HP/180 AC
vs
single target Aego:
3000 mana
39 seconds
3 peridots
1 buff slot
=1150 HP/200 AC
I think if I had noticed Marzin's Mark earlier, I still would have used the single target Aego as I have been doing while working up money for Blessing of Aegolism. Buff slots are a hot commodity, and groups are often willing to pitch in to make sure peridots are available, if cost is the issue. In the thread I mentioned above, there were some interesting ideas on how to make this spell into something more useful. From my perspective, the problem is that clerics don't get to make use of the group symbol until a time when it really isn't worth it to use. I have what I think is an easy fix to that problem.
I suggest:
1. Remove this spell entirely. If a new spell if thought up in time, great, implement it then, but avoid confusion now, and let Clerics have their group symbol.
2. Change the spell Symbol of Marzin (level 54) to a group version of what it already is, so a Cleric still gets the group symbol, but at a level when it is useful. Raise the mana cost to about 450-500, and have it use 3 reagents until such time as a decision on the reagent revamp is made.
I realize this would give Paladins the added bonus of having a group targetable symbol at 63, the level before they get the group targetable Heroic Bond (type 1). With the added mana cost and reagent consumption, and the fact that symbol doesnt stack with Aego, Paladins would still find this to be highly situational, and so I think it would cause little harm.
I also realize this does not make the spell more useful, rather I wanted to address the issue of Clerics not getting (worthwhile) group symbol, a feature someone obviously intended at one point for clerics to have and make use of.
