Magician's as solo class

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Bidon45

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Yes or no? Can magicians be effective soloers throughout most of the game? I started a mage wanting to solo, and so far its working extremely well (level 25) because I was told mages have the most powerful pets, and I figured with the most powerful pets + pet heals it would be good for solo'ing, but of course I realize that just because I can solo at level 25 does not mean I'll be able to later on in the game

If anyone can comment on this it would be greatly helpful, I already read the other posts about what the best solo classes are, of course everyone claims Necro and Bard, so I don't really need to ask what the best solo class is, I just wanna know if I can pull it off with magician, thanks ahead of time to anyone that answers.
 
In Live I know Mages were pretty good soloing up to in their 40's - not really sure after that. I expect SoD isn't toooo much different in that regard, although I don't know for sure. Question for you: which pet have you been using? I think one advantage the mage has over the necro is it has 4 different pet styles to choose from (I'm guessing slime pet ever made it over to SoD, heh) - but I'm not sure if one regularly comes out on top for most soloing situations.

Necro's just got one, it's a good one, but it's still just always the same lil guy.

I keep thinking to myself whether a mage or a necro would be a better solo-er mid-level (25 to 45) - you said people claim the necro, so I guess that helps me out a bit, thanks. I was going to make one or the other to solo with, but I've always loved the mage's damage shields so I'll probably just start one of those just for the DS's even if they are slighty worse off = )
 
I've been using fire pet, so far it seems to be leagues above the other elementals for soloing, its DPS is WAY higher than any of the others, and to be quite frank I have not even noticed the hp difference between it and the others much at all, I suspect its because it kills the mobs way faster so it gets hit a lot fewer times in the end, so it balances out how much life it loses by the end of the battle really.... just ends the fight quicker, it has a damage shield it casts on itself which pwns and the nukes it casts seem to let it hold aggro really well, I can nuke 2 or 3 times after the mob is below 85% health and not pull aggro off, AND chain heal as well along with the nukes and still not pull aggro off the pet, where as I do pull aggro from water and air (and earth too but thats irrelevent since it roots) So fire is definitely best solo pet up to 25, I have no idea about later levels though since I'm not there yet.

PS: What slime pet are you talking about?
 
For soloing you are looking at the wrong class entirely. If you want to solo, go for ranger, necro, or druid, probably in that order. As for pets, I suppose mage has the most powerful. Maybe, however bst pets tank better than mage pets, no contest. But pets really aren't all that great.
 
vistachiri said:
pets really aren't all that great.
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replace the word "pets" with "mages", and i just kinda summed up mages there. In their current form, they're probably not really the best choice for soloing.
 
vistachiri said:
For soloing you are looking at the wrong class entirely. If you want to solo, go for ranger, necro, or druid, probably in that order.
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There is no way that you are going to sit here and say that bards aren't on that list. A good bard can solo better than a good player in any one of those classes you listed. They don't rely on mana or arrows and bards can solo any mob that doesnt summon and good bards can solo some mobs that do summon.
 
It takes a decent bow, good gear, deep pockets to cover arrow costs, or all of these for a ranger to solo well. Bards are the best soloers from 1-65+, hands down.
 
Garluk said:
It takes a decent bow, good gear, deep pockets to cover arrow costs, or all of these for a ranger to solo well. Bards are the best soloers from 1-65+, hands down.
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Nicely said. Basically, you're really awesome at soloing as a ranger when you don't need it anymore :dance:
Still fun tho, but the way to 65 is rough.

@topic don't forget wizards
 
im a level 40 mage stuglo and have soloed very well.

i use a earth pet 80% of the time or a fire pet.

i can see a point where i cant solo but as long as i can single pull or dual pull in doing great when the hordes come on in i gate quick :)
 
I'm pretty sure there was an item or something that would summon a slime pet for mages - I think ir might have been out of Beholder's Gorge or involved it somehow (quest?)? I don't remember really well, this was a long time ago = )
 
Rouean_Onrielas said:
There is no way that you are going to sit here and say that bards aren't on that list. A good bard can solo better than a good player in any one of those classes you listed. They don't rely on mana or arrows and bards can solo any mob that doesnt summon and good bards can solo some mobs that do summon.
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Very true, probably the reason why I didnt mention them is my general unfamiliarity with the bard class, one of the few I havent played so far.

stumen01 said:
im a level 40 mage stuglo and have soloed very well.

i use a earth pet 80% of the time or a fire pet.

i can see a point where i cant solo but as long as i can single pull or dual pull in doing great when the hordes come on in i gate quick :)
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Oh yeah, soloing was great back in the day as a mage. Pulled off some pretty cool stuff. When you hit 65 though heres 2 pets you will rarely if ever use Fire, earth.
 
vistachiri said:
Oh yeah, soloing was great back in the day as a mage. Pulled off some pretty cool stuff. When you hit 65 though heres 2 pets you will rarely if ever use Fire, earth.
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Well, I did use Fire on raids just because he was the best dps and usually generated the least aggro. But the earth pet? Nah, summoned him up maybe 3 times total.

My favorite for soloing/grouping was the air pet. His stun proc was mad aggro and he totally kicked caster ass.
 
Garluk said:
Well, I did use Fire on raids just because he was the best dps and usually generated the least aggro. But the earth pet? Nah, summoned him up maybe 3 times total.

My favorite for soloing/grouping was the air pet. His stun proc was mad aggro and he totally kicked caster ass.
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Same thing here.

I used to use the earth pet to split the orc camps when trying to get my Amice and then once they were broken up I just used air.

Air is pretty much the go to pet in groups and soloing, fire for raids.
 
Garluk said:
Well, I did use Fire on raids just because he was the best dps and usually generated the least aggro. But the earth pet? Nah, summoned him up maybe 3 times total.

My favorite for soloing/grouping was the air pet. His stun proc was mad aggro and he totally kicked caster ass.
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Never bothered much with firepet even on raids, though we generally end up at the moment hitting up alot of aoe/ramp/whirlwind stuff, and none of the pets can take it worth a crap, fire least of all. Favorite raidpet so far I'd have to say is water for the initial slow that may land if people have problems.
 
In higher levels, I'd argue for the water pet over air (fire HP makes more difference the higher you get, good for raids or farming tho) as the air stun proc is no damage and pointless unless you're fighting a caster. the water pet proc does damage and slows. not to mention equal HP. use the earth pet only if you need the root. and if you do, i'd back him off as soon as he is rooted and rely on yourself for damage dealing.
 
I mostly used water and air for soloing, water for non-casters, air for casters. They both held aggro ok and had ok hitpoints, golden middle.
Always been using fire on raids until I got the relic one.
Pets shouldn't be ramp tanks in the first place, in my opinion.
When I still played a mage, I also always wanted to be group healer of caster dps group with my druid so the group heals would save the pet, it's highly annoying to cast so many spells if the pet dies :tinfoil:
 
Solo should be split into different catagories imo. Theres so many different ways to do it. Taking bards, rangers, druids, necros, mages and bsts into considersation. Bards are the best swarm kiters and average single kiters. Necros are the best Root/rot soloers with average kiting abilities and some charming abilities. Rangers are the best outdoor 1 at a time kiters. Druids are above average tri-kiting, solo kiting and charm soloers and below average root/rot soloers. Mages dont really have these options. They can do outdoor and dungeon soloing as long as their pet can tank. DS and pet heal and rain is the recipe for mage soloing, but thats about it in any zone. Same goes for beastlords imo, it would be a toss up which of them solo better, but i would assume slow would give bsts the upper hand. If you want to solo and only solo i would not go with a mage, personally, but i hope this post helps you get an idea on what the other soloers can do as apposed to mages.
This was posted by a necro. (Meso)
As a necro, i remember being sad that the mage could kill DB giants in SK while i couldn't (They summon)
i was also sad to see how effectively bards could swarm kite. Rangers can do any kind of kiting as long as there is enough room and arrows last, but in dungeons you only really see necros bsts and mages. Druids take too long, but if they find a charm pet its all over.
I think i'm done now ;P
 
Stop derailing any thread about mages with "mages are worthless" or I will start banning you from the forums (you know who you are).
 
duv said:
In higher levels, I'd argue for the water pet over air (fire HP makes more difference the higher you get, good for raids or farming tho) as the air stun proc is no damage and pointless unless you're fighting a caster. the water pet proc does damage and slows. not to mention equal HP. use the earth pet only if you need the root. and if you do, i'd back him off as soon as he is rooted and rely on yourself for damage dealing.
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The air proc is just as much damage as the water proc :what:
 
Wiz said:
The air proc is just as much damage as the water proc :what:
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It used to be 2 dmg more iirc. Like 30/32 with level 63 pets. No clue about now.

Oh, and despite bitching about mage role on raids, they're really cool in groups <3
 
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