Kelethin Reformation Manifesto

DarkUnknownOne

Dalayan Adventurer
My fellow Dalayans, this is not a message for all of you. For those of you with heavy beliefs in purity and the message of the light, I speak not to you. But for those of you with darkness in your heart and the shadows in your mind, ah you. You should listen closely. It is to you that I give my message.

The Bearers of Truth rebuilt Athica. I know. I helped them do it. I spoke with Athica herself, the original voice of the then-dead city, and I sought to help her. But the Bearers are not a force of good. They have never been and they were never meant to be! There is no shortage of Bearers who also wear the mantle of evil. The Bearers of Truth have one job. To stop Kaezul. To that end, good and evil must work together.

But brothers and sisters, we have been betrayed. Athica has become perverted from this message. When was the last time you strolled through the fine city and saw a Troll resting upon his porch? When was the last time you saw a young Iksar swimming in the ponds? When was the last time a Cultist of Entropy could pass through without receiving hateful glares? Surely there are many of darker influence who go through Athica every day. But none maintain residence there. None sit and stay awhile, to call Athica home and raise our young. No, we are driven away by the prejudice of a city that we helped build.

We shall not stand for it. Athica, we are done with it. I shall not stand to destroy a city which I helped raise up. Nor indeed should any of you. As angry patrons of a tavern which has grown abruptly intolerant, we shall simply take our business elsewhere. Where you ask? Shall we come into Grobb, already well past its breaking point? It was full enough with Trolls, and now it hosts the unfortunate Iksar as well. No.

We shall take Kelethin.

Kelethin is empty, the ghosts that infested it have gone. We believe they have left because Athica is rebuilt, though this is hard to prove. Why then, have we left it empty? It was a home once. A grand and beautiful city. And we shall make it so again. It took time and effort to rebuild Athica, but we can do it again. The efforts of a few can be truly stunning, have we not already seen so? It will take time, hard work, and patience. But we are just as capable as any pompous high elf. Indeed, we are more capable for we are the ones who have clawed out a life in muddy huts and cruel rainforests.

Well, my brothers? Are we ready? The Iksar have long claimed to be conquerors and I can think of many a Dark Elf who longs to see Nagthilian back in our hands. Let us take the first step. We shall strike out across the world with no more tucking our tails between our legs. Kelethin will be ours, not by right of conquest but by the right of architects. And no more will we stand the hatred of Athica.

Kelethin will be ours.

~ The Manifesto of Szriko Deathseeker and Cuwi Khons



Non-Roleplay bit :

The Cult is stagnating. Something needs to be done and frankly, we need to initiate it ourselves if we expect it to get done. GMs are busy people, we understand that. But we could be doing our own shit. Kelethin has been empty and dead for ages and nobody has taken any interest in it. Well we are. Athica really HAS gone astray from the Bearers message of neutrality and an evil outpost not too far away would be a key step in the balance between good and evil.

If we start doing what we did with Athica, IE collecting money, making armor for guards, food for inns, all the sort of thing, then perhaps we can get Kelethin rebuilt. Like Athica of course, we'd have to rename it. Kelethin is far too puny a name for our new bastion of the wicked. You're welcome to submit a name of course, but that's a secondary concern right now. At this point, we're frustrated enough to do the entire thing ourselves, but please. We'd really appreciate help in our endeavor. Evil roleplayers aren't much catered to so we'll just have to suck up our pride and do it ourselves.

Don't worry guys, the slaves will come after the city and your pride will be right back to where it was.
 
Very well written. I think it is a good idea, and seems like a sound goal.

I would endorse this and help you with what I could.
 
We'd really like GM input on this. We're fully willing to do everything ourselves of course, but there's not much point in gathering the necessary materials (armor, weapons and money to pay guards, etc) unless we know something will actually get done with it. We sort of assumed it would work in the same manner that Athica did. Get the necessary stuff, and things get spawned next patch. Is this actually viable?
 
I actually support this, so these baddies waste all their cash and good stuff for the reconstruction... More economic power to us! ;).
 
Yeah well just remember, you won't be getting into our beautiful city! We can play the racist game too!
 
Ykari07 said:
Yeah well just remember, you won't be getting into our beautiful city! We can play the racist game too!

Racist...Racist? Where did I type that? :psyduck:
Regardless of your race, if you're bad, you're bad...
And I don't want in there either! Do I want to get into Grobb? Hell no!

/role off
Although, if you put the reasonning to the end, there should be a good only too, and I don't see how it would fit in lorewise... We start getting into the Live reasonning then, with balance etc... I mean there are many "good" cities that are as accessible to baddies as to goodies. Maybe you should in fact militate for a better repartition in NPC population racewise in neutral towns? It's not that hard to code.

edited for readability (?) purposes.
 
Actually if I drop out of roleplay for a moment, I was referring to the fact that 99.9% of Athica is made up of good races, despite the fact that it was not built to be a 'good' city. It was a joint effort by the Bearers and like it or not, there are Evil Bearers. I'm one of them. We are insulted at this slight that we have been dealt and will thus turn the former elven home into a city for our own dark purposes.
 
Slippers1 said:
Why.. Kelethin?
..What other cities do you know that are COMPLETELY empty and in no way dangerous?

That's right, none, unless counting NagC, and only Rouean, Thizik, and I can get in there.
 
I dunno. Something about Kelethin just doesn't scream evil to me.

As a druid, however, I wouldn't mind of home-base be set up there.
 
Slippers1 said:
I dunno. Something about Kelethin just doesn't scream evil to me.

As a druid, however, I wouldn't mind of home-base be set up there.

Athica didn't scream "good" until the Bearers helped rebuild it that way ... and does it now? Just an example of what could happen if people put their minds to it.
 
I'd support rebuilding kelethin, but as a druid's/ranger's home. It should of course still be neutral, but druids are rather good at trying to be neutral, and ranger's are perhaps just too dumb not to be neutral ;)

I think I'm with the person who suggested we petition for a change in the spawn table to make the racial diversity a little better at Athica, and then for a Kelethin rebuild to go into progress, we should vote a name for Kelethin though, we shouldn't call it Kelethin anymore than we called Athica what it was on Live. maybe it's got a sleeping city spirit that the druids sense? since it is a tree city
 
I am also frustrated with what Athica has become. It is not the city of the Bearers of Truth, it was just rebuilt by them and then taken away as quickly by the High Elves once they returned. One of our clerics who was excommunicated (UNFAIRLY!) from the Church of South Newport, was a little dismayed to discover that Athica's cleric guild didn't like him either and we ended up getting into a scuffle with them while Athica was being attacked by Kaezulians.

I would have liked to have seen a necromancy section added because, while its not a study I myself pursue, it is a valid form of arcane study, and with the necromancers of Oggok having been thrown out, there is a shortage of places where a young necromancer can study without falling into bad and biased company (such as the Cultists.)

Unfortunately, Athica is too small to house much more, and the minds of paladins are too small to tolerate.

I am as against turning Kelethin into a cesspool of evil as I was against turning Athica into a haven for do-gooders. Neutrality was not achieved in Athica and to add an evil counterpart in Athica's backyard would not make either place neutral, just good and evil. I personally will not be opening my pockets or expending any efforts in building a place where scum like Entropy Cultists may roam about freely and unaccosted. Any creature that wishes to spread plague and sickness belongs in the sewers.
 
Agreed, Tsabayne. Tis a foolish idea and should be done away with here. You speak of "taking" the city? Are you looking to weaken our already broken "army"? I'm sure Kaezul and The Betrayer would be overjoyed to see us splitting into rival factions and cities. Hell, he could probably sit back and watch us destroy each other. I say that instead of dividing our already segregated cities, we should focus on making them more accessible to the darker element of our society. Anyone with me?
 
Tsabayne said:
I personally will not be opening my pockets or expending any efforts in building a place where scum like Entropy Cultists may roam about freely and unaccosted. Any creature that wishes to spread plague and sickness belongs in the sewers.

I'm rather inclined to disagree, being a proud Cleric of Gradalsh myself. I find the sewer system of Newport rather unattractive. However I did not say we would slay all the do-gooders who have relentlessly claimed Athica for themselves. To defeat Kaezul and his army is my primary objective and igniting a civil war is hardly my intention. There will be time enough to do that when Kaezul is dead.

And indeed, did we not already learn that the Mist is weakened by us banding together? It was driven out of Kelethin purely because Athica was re-settled. Let us settle Kelethin, and perhaps the Nagthilian mists will be weakened by this. And if Nagthilian is freed, you shall never side hide nor hair of me in the wretched surface cities again.
 
You, self proclaimed Bearers of the Truth, or more appropiatedly the servants of the Fake Prophet, take pride on having reconstructed Athica. You say you reclaimed from Kaezul. But the real truth is you stole it from us elves!. You say you're right. but did you even bothered giving back them houses to the Old Elven families? NO! We elves are forced to live in the elves quarters, while we allow you, traitorus scum roam freely thru the city... thru OUR city.

Now you want to claim Kelethin for you? And you say it's your RIGHT? Hah! You're sadly MISTAKEN! It's not yours to take what wasn't yours! Have you searched for the old families living there? No, you just saw an empty city, and rushed to occupy it like cockcroaches you are! I see the problem. You just want to be aisled from any other race. Hah nothing of that will matter, anyway.

That attitude you sport is what makes it easy for anyone to justify Kaezul's war. No doubt anyone on his SANE mind would tell you that you are doing nothing but taking advantage on everyone's else work!

Res assured. I won't frontally oppose you taking residence on Kelethin, It just weaken you, it makes your lines thiner... But... heck, maybe that will allow a couple of you to survive once you activate what shouldn't be activated!
 
..Noone who's good would be killed or disliked. It'll just be a haven for 'evil' magic and arts as well as 'evil' races to be able to safely stay, unlike in Athica where they could be killed by the Paladins for no reason. It's not going against the bearers, this whole idea was put together by two bearers in order to make the entire area more neutral by balancing out the concentration of races and professions present.

Most of you are taking it way out of hand, here.

Shanara, the elves didn't want to take back the city, they'd left it empty for over a hundred years. Kelethin was recently freed from the mist, and do you see wood elves rushing to rebuild it? No, Felwithe started empty the elves were too lazy/scared to do so themselves, so the bearer put in time and effort to do so themselves. Elves also do live in the non-elven-quarter, but so do other races. The elven quarter is only for elves, so they control more of the city than other races.

As for your ignorance, I'm sure you'd be less inclined to talk with a blade in your throat.
 
(ooc: Zaira here)

Hah, and you stopped enough to check I wasn't living there? Cause I was! retrying to reform MY city, you stole it from me, And if paladins kill someone is their damned problem... About the blade on the throat.. Last time someone tried was the guildmaster of the rogues, in newport, apparently he hated me returning him a bag of money... oh, well, hope his healer has done a good job. Feel like trying yourself? I tell you this: You are nothing but usurpers. Leave kelethin alone, or, at least, ask first Kelethin's true inhernitors. Return Athica to us Elves, and return to your god-forsaken Valley of Erimal.

This goesbeyond my filiation. You took my home... I decided to ignore you, since, at least, you reconstructed it, even if you forgot to gave it back to US. You know intend to take on Kelethin, and you are already talking about Nagthilian and Freeport! You ARE the same than Kaezul. Except you want the lands for yourselves, in an egoistical way. No vision is behind your actions, but the words of that FAKE prophet that controls you.

I repeat, stay out of kelethin. Don't force us, REAL citizens of Dalaya, to step you down on this war of yours... cause it IS a war. You call it rebuilding. I say it's reconquer. It'll be reconquer till you give the land to the original owners! I say, this way that you're nothing but the new plague of Dalaya. You say it's for the good of the races... guess what? Kaezul said SAME EXACT THING!

Think about it now. And stop this war, before you force us to go and stop you.
 
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