Is pacifying to move past a mob Content skipping?

Noktar

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is pacifying a mob and then move past it by hugging a side and not killing him Content Skipping?
 
I would consider that if you need to cast an aggro neg spell on the mob to avoid it, you are skipping content. If you could pass by by simply hugging the walls and not have to cast on it, it'd be fine.

Now that's just my opinion.
 
How is it any different than just training the mobs away with a monk and running past, which is not allowed?

Where did Wiz put the Linken + Headwalking story? :)
 
Thoias said:
Where did Wiz put the Linken + Headwalking story? :)


Yeah, I thought about that too. But I'm still not sure on the matter itself since you're passing content with valid tools that have been given to you and aren't abusing stuff like CoH or a monk. Guess an official answer is in order.
 
yeah that was what i was thinking too manluas. but since its at least a gray area i much rather have wiz reply with what the set rule is for it to clear it up.
 
Wiz said:
Explicitly skipping mobs that are obviously intended to be part of the clear to an encounter, for instance training away inner prison statues and beelining directly for the dragons is not allowed. Obviously if mobs do not see invis you can invis past them and things like that. This also includes rezzing your group / raid past mobs.

I would think this counts as "things like that."
 
Btw, I think the pull that is being questioned is the three pull in inner prison before Deyranni. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Finny said:
Btw, I think the pull that is being questioned is the three pull in inner prison before Deyranni. Correct me if I'm wrong.

fuckin' lmao

You're correct, and apparently level 65+ mobs aren't immune to pacify on Shards. Consider my earlier opinion rescinded! Until obvious stuff like IP statues are immune to pacify, consider it NOT OKAY to pacify past raid trash. In groups it's perfectly acceptable, but raid paci resides on a forbidden planet for now.
 
Thinkmeats said:
fuckin' lmao

You're correct, and apparently level 65+ mobs aren't immune to pacify on Shards. Consider my earlier opinion rescinded! Until obvious stuff like IP statues are immune to pacify, consider it NOT OKAY to pacify past raid trash. In groups it's perfectly acceptable, but raid paci resides on a forbidden planet for now.

quick clarification, what about 1grouping trash in a raidzone pacify? Just asking as it sounds like if say one were one-grouping IP statues (which would be a bad idea in the first place) that it would be okay, but using it to get to a boss, notsomuch. Mostly zones like torment, air etc would come more into focus for this kind of question.
 
though there are groups that can 1 group loads of nameds in raid zones like NToV. Would they be raiding with 1 group?

and can you use pacify on pulls on raids?
 
Noktar said:
though there are groups that can 1 group loads of nameds in raid zones like NToV. Would they be raiding with 1 group?

and can you use pacify on pulls on raids?


Pulling != content skipping

If mobs were meant to come together they would be linked, and Paci won't fix this so I see no reason that you can't use it along with a good many other items / spells for pulling purposes.
 
I think its more of an oversight since content developers might not have known about being able to pacify mobs higher than level 65. In this case since it was planned against it basically allows you to bypass content. The spell should probably just be made to only land on mobs up to level 65.
 
You can actually just hug the wall past those mobs, no paci required. Atleast for an Iksar/Undead Frog.

IIRC no mob in IP is meant to be skipped. This is Wiz-Stance on prison.

Unless you're dropping through the pit into Farg room :psyduck:
 
Cinn said:
You can actually just hug the wall past those mobs, no paci required. Atleast for an Iksar/Undead Frog.

IIRC no mob in IP is meant to be skipped. This is Wiz-Stance on prison.

Unless you're dropping through the pit into Farg room :psyduck:

Agreed!
 
Cinn said:
You can actually just hug the wall past those mobs, no paci required. Atleast for an Iksar/Undead Frog.

IIRC no mob in IP is meant to be skipped. This is Wiz-Stance on prison.

Unless you're dropping through the pit into Farg room :psyduck:
seriously, i chantermissioned alll over the dang place, and i died enough times to figure out that i didn't need to really die anymore. you can run past so so so much crap in there, its not funny.


its hard to return to the raid in deyranni illusion if stuff isn't cleared tho.
 
Aaubert said:
its hard to return to the raid in deyranni illusion if stuff isn't cleared tho.
Save target in the toggle 2 target button and wait to shapeshift til you are past the trash
 
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