How important is Slow

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Dalayan Beginner
Hey there all new to WR im thinking of making a Druid / SK or monk combo im just wondering how important slow is as i was originally thinking shaman but ive played a shaman in eqlive for quite a while and i see so many saying they are playing one on WR is it still needed at later levels to survive most content or is healing a viable option withought slow up to 65
 
You can easilly so to 65 and gain AA's in a duo combo without slow. Druid heals will sufice. However, you will be able to take on harder mobs/areas with less downtime if you use slow. The tradeoff is that with a druid you have ports/DS/SoW, etc. Lots of versatility. Even snare is amazing. Anyways, at higher lvls, raids etc, there will always be shaman that can slow. I would say try druid if you want! If it really isn't working out, go ahead and make the swap, but like i said, slow IS NOT a necessity (for exp)
 
Thanks very much that was just the kind of reply i was looking for. So essentially anything i can do with a shaman i can do with a druid it just might make for more downtime in the end ?
 
No.

Shaman / melee is much more powerful than druid/melee. You'll do perfectly fine with a druid / melee combo, but the combination of slow, and canni/torpor makes shaman an ideal melee partner.
 
Druids are better caster partners than Shamans, but Shamans are better melee partners than Druids.

You'll still be able to do most anything with a Druid though, if you're not just looking at min/maxing. Besides, for the high end, you could partner with a Paladin for Fury of Light slow.
 
Just go warrior/cleric and be done with it if you're aiming for the high end.

You can't beat that combo.
 
Melwin said:
Just go warrior/cleric and be done with it if you're aiming for the high end.

You can't beat that combo.
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Yes, everyone should play warrior/cleric. There are no other classes or combos.

KAS
 
Melwin said:
Just go warrior/cleric and be done with it if you're aiming for the high end.

You can't beat that combo.
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Yuck, you can beat it easily.

A druid monk combo far surpasses the warrior and cleric. With a cleric, it's just heals. With a warrior, it's just straight up melee. You can't do any other tactics past this. Boring...

A druid can kite, while the monk runs behind FD'ing whenever he gets aggro. You kill mobs twice as fast, and have no downtime whatsoever.

A druid can DS the Monk, which becomes free damage, if you choose to just straight up melee / heal.

The druid can port.

The monk can split.

Really, the list goes on and on. Now, I'm biased in this little debacle, but still. Anyone who would play a warrior and cleric and think that there's no argument otherwise, I pity you. There's a large amount of warriors and clerics in the high end anyway (which also applies for Monks and Druids I suppose, although I don't see that many Shaman's).

I duoed all the way up to and beyond 65 with just a druid and monk. The ports have got to be the best thing about this combo though, by far.
 
Ill bite, Rambler. Your right that for some pure DC situations a warrior fails where another class will succeed. What though, does the monk/druid do when they want to take down a bleeding edge hard mob? It annoys me at times but everything is balanced around having a cleric and a warrior present. It is the standard. If you group (which is necessary), then you already have the best tank and the best healer -- making it easy to add utility/dps classes. I am talking about 65+ class balance where these slight differences DO make a difference, not before 65. There is a large shift that takes place when the warrior's max HP goes past say.. 7k HP which makes Complete Heal godly. So much that it beats shaman slow/heal efficency easily. Warriors tank hard content before anyone else can and clerics can heal them the longest.

For great justice and to prevent riots -- just about everything can still be enjoyed and done with other classes. The only time this really applies is for raid mobs and character-limit zones (crytho malath and catacombs.)
 
Rambler: CH efficiency is pretty much not beatable once the warrior gets past a certain level.
 
well... considering that warriors are the best tanks (in most situations) and clerics are the best healers (in most situations) It's fair to assume that a warrior/cleric combo would be best when taking down things that require a tank and healer.

--however--

when mobs start breaking the rules, then other combos prevail. There are also times when combos outside of the melee/healer archetype flat out rock the house.

In other words: You all suck, and I'm god for seeing things birds-eye-view. :sadf:
 
Hah, well... I just find killing stuff as a warrior sucks because it takes too long. That's why I wanted a druid over a shaman. You kill faster. Although at the high end... you can't really kill at all, which sucks.

And you're just jealous.
 
I've been considering a Mage - Druid, Wiz - Druid, or BL - Druid combo, really seems like they would own face through the levels. I boxed monk-shaman on live and so far doing the same here but it seems like you can't turn a corner without bumping into anther monk-shaman combo..
 
Paladin/Cleric has been pretty slow up until recently. When the cleric got his pet the DPS was nearly doubled, and now that I have more mana, my healing power with CH is nearing infinite. I can't wait until I get the Paladin slow AA; I will wreck absolutely everything.
 
Yeah, I feel sorry for Liquid. Haha.

Druid / Warrior isn't too bad. Little bit slower than Monk / Druid, but don't have to heal as much. /shrug. They all have their tradeoffs.
 
Im playing Druid/Warrior right now. Level 26 Wood elf Druid and level 24 Troll Warrior. Damage shield is amazing, I kill Red cons to lvl 26 with some downtime, but the downtime is nothing considering you get a HUGE exp hit from killing a mob like 6 levels higher then you...

Yah Slow would help alot but at this level and lower, DS is far more powerful.

Also Druid have almost the exact same healing power as cleric until cleric get Celestial heal/Complete heal, and even after that Druid is still a very powerful healer.

Plus if you level a druid up you can Power level any class very easily. You could even power level up a Shaman if you though you really did need Slow.
 
I like my Mage/Beastlord combo, I get slows, hastes, heals for my 2 pet tanks, and lots of DPS, granted I can't duo all the biggest and baddest mobs but I can pour through their buddies ;)
 
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