High End Shields.

volvov2

volvov2

Dalayan Adventurer
If this isn't in the right section, move it please, but I think this is right.

At the raid level, I have noticed a severe lack of shields with procs. As of right now, there is only one raid dropped shield with a proc on it, Protector's Aegis from Plane of Valor (75 hate).

The only other shield a 65 would use that has a proc (and wouldn't use it for long) is the Gravel Estucheon from Cmal3 off the golem (I think, if not the golem, then the funeral master). Through the raid game I have collected/used a bunch of shields, none of them have had a proc either.

Anyways, I would like to have the raid game shields looked at possibly (some, not all obviously) adding a proc to a few, I don't really know which should and it would probably be up to the designer. I really don't want the stats to be taken down a notch just for a proc though, but I think there should be at least one somewhere along the line that has one other than the Valor shield, which is somewhere between OP and IP difficulty.

The 2 links below are of some of the high end shields and the 2 shields that do in fact have procs. Those are pretty much all of them along the line of progression, I missed the Phase Ward shield (OP random drop from golems) and the shield that Disciple of the One has, which I couldnt get links of. There might be a few more but I think my point is made.

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Also is it possible to change Shield procs to go off on a successful block and not a bash. Bash is incredibly sketchy in terms of actually hitting a mob.
 
Its better than a very low % to proc on a hit that has a very low % to land in the first place :[
 
guyvertoo said:
I agree! And they don't have to be only on melee shields!
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Would you really rather see procs on shields over stuff like flowing thought? This is a genuine question to gauge whether you'd want that or not before deciding if it's a good thing to pursue.
 
Syalara said:
Some variety would be cool.

FT shields have its place as do shields with procs.
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as a chanter, if it wasn't gimp in how often it went off, i'd hump your foot if you gave me a sheild w/ a rune proc.
 
Aaubert said:
as a chanter, if it wasn't gimp in how often it went off, i'd hump your foot if you gave me a sheild w/ a rune proc.
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Do enchanters get the bash skill? Or do you mean if its changed so the shield can proc on a successful block?

Alton said:
That would be entirely too weird. Xeldan take note please, no shields with rune procs!
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Why would it be weird, BPs and axes proc it....

Is having the shield proc on a success block possible? and if it is, make sure its a decent proc rate, being that shields do not add that much blocking power compared to just using a 2 hander (at least I don't notice that I tank tons better with a shield, but I'd have to parse it, but I'm sure Wiz or Xeldan would have a definitive answer on how good it really is).
 
I notice quite a large difference between tanking with a shield and tanking with farg 2hander or Sidrav. Blocks happen less than any other defensive ability because even with an 80 or 85 ac shield its only 160 or 170 block skill, but it does happen quite a bit.

Checking my logs, over 819 fights (this is really inaccurate by the way, at least 50% of these fights are with a 2 hander, but its the only data I have readily available) my numbers are:

Blocks: 2544
Dodges: 4639 (+10 skill mod)
Parries: 5331 (+25 skill mod)
Ripostes: 3708
 
Mythryn said:
I notice quite a large difference between tanking with a shield and tanking with farg 2hander or Sidrav. Blocks happen less than any other defensive ability because even with an 80 or 85 ac shield its only 160 or 170 block skill, but it does happen quite a bit.

Checking my logs, over 819 fights (this is really inaccurate by the way, at least 50% of these fights are with a 2 hander, but its the only data I have readily available) my numbers are:

Blocks: 2544
Dodges: 4639 (+10 skill mod)
Parries: 5331 (+25 skill mod)
Ripostes: 3708
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If what you say is true, (at least 50% were used with a 2 hander), than adjusting your Blocks accordingly would yield at least 5088 had you been using a shield the entire time. This puts it right up there with Parries, the highest performing Defense skill you listed. That's a far cry from "less than any other defensive ability."
 
I'm also not taking into account mob levels, mob types etc. I'd roughly guess based on previous parse logs that Blocks would be around 3300 or so if this was parsed vs raid mobs/raid trash.
 
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