Giant/Dragon Faction Augs

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Jarh

Dalayan Adventurer
So i think this is super silly...

I use guestlock on all my toons but allow guild members to use the toon (Jarh) and only guild members. One accidentally used her during the killing of a some dragons in WW which resulted in the aug for my ally giants poofing. It was an honest mistake.

I petitioned to find out there's nothing they can do about this.

I'm not asking to get the aug handed back to me (which would be awesome) but i asked if there is a way I can redo the king gaint head turn in or switch factions and go get the empress head (which would take a good amount of farming).

But again nothing the GM could do about it...


BUT when Grupo hands out his password to a bunch of random people and gets ALL his gear destroyed maliciously he gets everything back not having to lift a finger.


Way to punish the players that follow the rules and use the tools in place to protect them.

Hopefully something can be done about this, like redoing the quest for the head or switching to the other faction.
 
I would recommend:

A) Player returns faction to ally, hails king/empress and receives replacement aug.

or

B) Player acquires head of enemy faction and turns it in (effectively repeating quest) once ally again.

I'm not a big fan of things that stunt character development, like this quest line if screwed up and dieties.

Also, destroying a toons dragon/giant aug from a proxy account is such a surefire way to harass since you know the GMs wont fix it and it cant be repeated.
 
I know you think bringing up Grupo in relation to this somehow proves your point but they are totally unrelated incidents so seriously just knock it off.

Being able to redo the quest for a new augment is a reasonable request though.
 
Completely related incidents. Someone else on your toon screwed up. In my case it was an honest mistake plus i use the protective tools and they told me they did it, Grupo was just a moron and it was bound to happen giving it out to random people.

So because Grupo is a fucking idiot and someone maliciously destroyed his gear, he should get gear reimbursed?? But because someone screwed up and killed something I shouldn't be able to get the aug back?

Should I just have someone destroy my BP that it was in and ask for it back? Would that be more closely related for you?


I didn't say hand the thing back to me, I said allow me to redo the quest or change faction and do the complete quest line the other direction.



Please stay out of this thread if your not posting something useful, this isn't loose platinum.
 
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Jarh said:
Please STFU and stay out of this thread if your not posting something useful, this isn't loose platinum.
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At this rate you might want to step out of your own thread. At least I was polite and agreed you should be able to redo the quest to obtain your aug again.

If you really want to go on a derail here what happened to you was due to player error when your friend repeatedly failed to con the mobs he was killing resulting in the loss of a single item that while irreplaceable at the moment does not prevent you from continuing to play the character , when all of Grupo's stuff was deleted that was a malicious act by another player with the intent to remove all his gear and render the character useless. It's also beating a dead horse.

Please solve whatever drama is going on between you and whoever/whichever guild/whatever is causing you to be totally inflammatory because all your outburst is doing is harming your own thread. It's time to get grown.
 
He could have went and re bought gear and re killed raid mobs for gear, but they took into consideration the circumstances and thus rewarded him his gear back. His was also player error in that he gave his info out without putting questlock on thus resulting in his gear getting deleted.

If someone deletes all my gear can i get it all back then too, including my aug? Saying because it was ALL his gear does not change the fact of why it happened to him.

I don't see why there isn't a way to fix what has been done.

I'm asking for a way to get to be able to redo quest or other alignment.
 
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What Jarh is saying is you are better off leaving your character Not Guest locked so if someone screws up your faction they can just delete your gear and youll get it back since your character will be unplayable. Makes sense to me
 
Would agree with Rorne on both points,

Intuitively, there should be some way to redo your faction to restore your aug.

Swearing at people in thread won't endear you to those who may be able to help

said as a fellow guildie and with best intentions
 
I'm beginning to think this is my fault.

In my attempts to be open and honest and not so heavy handed on the police state thing, I've kinda let these "FUCK THE STAFF YOU RULED AGAINST ME AND YOU ALL SUCK HOW DARE YOU AND I AM NOT DONATING EVER" threads exist.

Should we go back to this being a bannable (or even forum bannable) offense?
 
Tarutao said:
I'm beginning to think this is my fault.

In my attempts to be open and honest and not so heavy handed on the police state thing, I've kinda let these "FUCK THE STAFF YOU RULED AGAINST ME AND YOU ALL SUCK HOW DARE YOU AND I AM NOT DONATING EVER" threads exist.

Should we go back to this being a bannable (or even forum bannable) offense?
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It was more a how can I get this aug back, and if there is no possible way to do that a suggestion that it be implemented a way to restore your aug or redo a quest or do the other alignment quest.

(actually donated for a long time too, so not really the case here)
 
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Remove all of the augs forever

Fuck the vah, Fuck relic hunters but lets ignore that crazy reward we get for chain killing pennerellia and rymaz.
 
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Jarh said:
It was more a how can I get this aug back, and if there is no possible way to do that a suggestion that it be implemented a way to restore your aug or redo a quest or do the other alignment quest.

(actually donated for a long time too, so not really the case here)
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You are just another in a recent list of people that run straight to the forums to announce how awful the staff is for telling you "no". This isn't all about just you.
 
I asked in /petition to have Jarh's aug returned and to have mine removed in its stead. If a pound of flesh must be extracted (cluster of bytes, maybe?), the consequence of a poofed aug should belong to me, not the person whose toon I was borrowing. I was told by the on-duty GM: "This isn't something we do."

Can I inquire as to why? It's never been clear to me why an item lost through a player mistake should not be recovered by a GM that has the capability of returning such items to the player (or a no-drop item looted by the wrong toon). I can think of a few reasons why GMs might choose not to aid a player with an item recovery in specific instances, and maybe this is one of those cases, but I can't think of any reasons that this should be codified as official GM policy, to the point where GMs must simply say, "I'm sorry, my hands are tied."

An imperfect analogy I know, but I locked my keys inside my car once upon a time, and I asked a nearby police officer to help me into my car. He certainly wasn't obligated to help, but he walked over to my car, shoved a plastic hanger under the window pane, and unlocked the door for me. It cost him 5 minutes of his time, but it saved me a call to the locksmith, an hour in the cold and fifty to a hundred bucks on the bill. A kindness for which I'm still grateful.

I guess I always thought that GMs are there to serve a similar function.
 
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I asked in /petition to have Jarh's aug returned and to have mine removed in its stead. If a pound of flesh must be extracted (cluster of bytes, maybe?), the consequence of a poofed aug should belong to me, not the person whose toon I was borrowing. I was told by the on-duty GM: "This isn't something we do."

Can I inquire as to why? It's never been clear to me why an item lost through a player mistake should not be recovered by a GM that has the capability of returning such items to the player (or a no-drop item looted by the wrong toon). I can think of a few reasons why GMs might choose not to aid a player with an item recovery in specific instances, and maybe this is one of those cases, but I can't think of any reasons that this should be codified as official GM policy, to the point where GMs must simply say, "I'm sorry, my hands are tied."

An imperfect analogy I know, but I locked my keys inside my car once upon a time, and I asked a nearby police officer to help me into my car. He certainly wasn't obligated to help, but he walked over to my car, shoved a plastic hanger under the window pane, and unlocked the door for me. It cost him 5 minutes of his time, but it saved me a call to the locksmith, an hour in the cold and fifty to a hundred bucks on the bill. A kindness for which I'm still grateful.

I guess I always thought that GMs are there to serve a similar function.
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this is a very dead thread, Its been discussed a hundred times in the past, not only is it a GM policy, but wiz himself stated these augs would not be returned. Its not hard to con a mob, im glad you learned a valuable lesson, now let it go because you're wasting your time.
 
Maybe, just MAYBE, and I'm just being on the edge of insanity here. If someone, you know, becomes a Dev, or applies to be a Dev. They can come up with a rather decent quest line for a person that's destroyed their GIANT/DRAGON aug by being bad/dumb/having-e-friends-that-arent-good-e-friends. Something a bit tedious and requires a strong group/on-tier raid, to make amends to the good people they got the aug from, to get a slightly less powerful replacement faction aug. This aug would be repeatable, for those who just can't seem to not attack the people that love them.

Just one more reason for people to think, and try to be a Dev.
 
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