Getting Bored

[acrobat]

Great server and everything but im getting a bit bored of the same ole EQ that ive quit so many times now.

Being in a guild that raids added some excitement but im lacking a few things that i need to keep me playing and keep me interested. I hate to sound greedy asking for this seeing as the server is free and Wiz seems like he works nearly every waking hour doing stuff for the server. But im saying it anyway, partly for the benefit of the server, because if i want it, im sure other people will feel the same way.

Im also offering my help in any way i can to add stuff, and i noticed that theres a bunch of new GMs now who might be interested in adding some stuff.

Ok heres me desires:

Id like to see a bunch of new zones added, with special mobs and loots and quests. The zones that come to mind are Upper + Lower Guk which would be great as a lvl 40-60 sorta zone, similar to on Live. Also, id love to see Dreadlands, Burning Woods, Skyfire, and Karnor. Some good Kunark zones that im suprised are missing from WR.

Now, the big outdoor zones can be a playground for whoever, but what i really want to see for myself, is something to do solo or duo as a level 65. Ive got all the levels, and ive got a bunch of important AA's and there really isnt much for me to look forward to now. Ive got no motivation to keep getting AA's because what am i gunna get? Heroic Enlightenment that gives me like an extra 10int or whatever? Meh... id rather play another game. But what would keep interested would be places i can solo or DC that are pretty hard but worth it for the exp and some interesting loots. I have better gear than i could ask for thanks to some great raids, but i dont have any utility items. Anyway, what i enjoyed the most in live, was finding somewhere deep in a dungeon that nobody really goes to, or is designed for a lower level group, and figure out a way to solo there (or DC). And get some exp and good utility items in the process and maybe some stuff to sell so i can make some cash.

One place i used to goto in Live was L.Guk and id farm the Ykesha, the SMR, and the FBSS. All of which where pretty challenging as a solo necro pre-PoP etc... I found it alot of fun, and it was worth it for the loots when they eventually dropped. Also, in Droga (or something - i forgot the name) was a mob at the very bottom of the dungeon that dropped that cloak of shadow which had instant invis clicky effect. That was fun to camp too. Then there was the balcony in Karnor, which was always empty as most groups died before they got there, or went past to the hands. I used to charm those undeads with my necro for hours and make tons of exp. And last, was Howling Stones, which was THE place to solo as a necro before Luclin and PoP and Velous etc... It was very hard, but really good fun and a real challenge to do by yourself. And made some great exp once you got it figured out. (you had to levetate and keep gate ready at all times. If you got in trouble you had to jump off the side and hit gate before you hit the ground or die horribly. - you also had to charm the first 2 mobs and keep fully buffed so they didnt nuke you to death etc...)

So id like some things like that on WR because at the moment, im just wandering between Eldenals, Mielech, FG, and my secret place, to get solo AA exp which as i said, is starting to bore me.

I also wonder if there could be a bunch of quests added. There are alot that i dont know about, but theres also alot that are for the lower levels. As a 65 enchanter, i dont know of any quest that would be usefull for me. Like i said, i have good gear already, so the point of me doing a quest would be mainly for something to do to pass the time. And if i got a utility item and some exp in the process it would make it worthwhile.

Id be happy to come up with a bunch of quests, altho i have no idea how hard it would be to add them all into the game. Same goes for the mobs and the zones that i mentioned.

If its too much work then, sorry, i had to ask.


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Admittedly theres a few zones that i havnt fully explored and a few that are almost perfect already. Velketors or Labyrith is one zone ive only explored with a group and im sure i could solo and DC there, and i like that zone and it would give me that feeling of taking on a dungeon by myself etc... Im especially fond of going down the hole there and killing stuff in the tunnels etc... But there isnt much point for me to do that. There isnt really any loots i want, and the exp is probably better if i just solo eldenals.

But theres some zones i wonder if they could be modified or added to, instead of adding those kunark zones i mentioned. Sirens Grotto for example, was a great place to solo upto 62 or so, and the room under the water was full of mobs which is good for a group at lower levels too. But at 65 there isnt really anything in that zone that worth doing. The zone is often empty too. I wonder if a few tough nameds could be added (besides that lady of the deep). The same goes for DN. I know its a great zone for grouping in, and ive seen wizzys quad there, but personally i never go there. The bone dragons where something i enjoyed but i wonder if there could be a few more challenging nameds added to that zone too. I know of the stalkers and the alchemist and a few others. But a few more wouldnt hurt And then theres FR. Not a great place for me as a chanter because i cant charm undead, but id go there if there was some stuff added deep inside that i could charm. And id do mielech if i could invis past those golems. But i cant kill them solo or duo DCing and i cant invis past them.

 

[Anadin]

get access to bots.

be willing to bot a tank, cleric, whatever is needed.

Start groups.

no more soloing blues.

 

[Nuralia]

Kunark zones are Kaezul's Land, and intentionally not added yet.
Adding zones is a lot of work, mostly because of all the itemization that has to occur. Cause, you know, no one wants to hunt in places without lots of loot.

 

[Wiz]

We're working with pretty limited manpower at the moment, first of all.

Secondly, why are you asking for new zones if you're using like 5% of the existing ones?

 

[zodium]

This post is no different from any other post that asks for more [zones/items/quests] except for one thing: It's longer.

Trust me when I say that if you have the will to, there is challenge to be had on WR, even if you have to do it yourself. Let me ask: Have you killed the Summoner in cmal; have you farmed Marvelous Gems in NToV or SE with a single group? Do you have a Melwin's Idol of Joy or an Earth Elemental illusion necklace? A heal ring from Parce? Have you ever tried to twogroup the Summoner in Trial 1? Have you duoed the Mielech crypt?

The answer to the vast majority of those is probably no. As an enchanter, you probably will not be able to duo or solo most of them, that is true, because enchanters are not primarily a solo class. Enchanters rely on others to be at their peak efficiency, so why not take a group somewhere. Or if you really want to solo, start a solo class or duo like SK/Cleric. Contrary to popular belief, your class does limit what you can do to some extent, as it should. If every class could solo and group equally well there'd be only cosmetic differences between them.

Your problem is rooted in your unwillingness to explore; essentially the Allakhazam syndrome. Start exploring, and I think you'll find WR much more enjoyable.

 

[Wiz]

I concur with Melwin.

As a little example, a new zone was added a few days ago. Have you even set foot there?

And even if you just want to solo or farm the equivalent of an FBSS, have you tried farming Paw, Lasanth, tried soloing First Ruins, or any other innumerable lguk-like spots?

You've created your own problem and expect the solution handed on a silver platter, but no matter how many more zones we add you're still not going to get off your ass and explore if you're not doing so now.

 

[acrobat]

We're working with pretty limited manpower at the moment, first of all.

Yeah i know that, which is why i offered to help etc.

Secondly, why are you asking for new zones if you're using like 5% of the existing ones?

Im 65, ive used 100% of the zones but now im 65, most of the zones are full of greens etc..

This post is no different from any other post that asks for more [zones/items/quests] except for one thing: It's longer.

Yeah i could have just said WAH i want more zones! but you would dismiss me even quicker...

Trust me when I say that if you have the will to, there is challenge to be had on WR, even if you have to do it yourself. Let me ask: Have you killed the Summoner in cmal; have you farmed Marvelous Gems in NToV or SE with a single group?

Yes, Yes and Yes.

Do you have a an Earth Elemental illusion necklace?

Im an enchanter, i can look like an any elemental i want with 1 click.

A heal ring from Parce?

my alt is a cleric

Have you ever tried to twogroup the Summoner in Trial 1? Have you duoed the Mielech crypt?

Yes, and yes. Im not saying there is a lack of challenges. Im saying there is a lack of challenges for me to solo/duo for worthwhile rewards. And also (im saying this partly to Janseth too) its impossible to start a group when i log on for an afternoon and the entire population of the server is 21 people, like today.

Also, even when the server is busy, alot of places are off limits if a great tank is not available. When breaker is doing something else or not online and Ritter and Co. are doing something else, then how do-able is FG? I havnt had a single group to go there yet. Ive only seen while soloing briefly.

The answer to the vast majority of those is probably no. As an enchanter, you probably will not be able to duo or solo most of them, that is true, because enchanters are not primarily a solo class.

Wrong. I can solo very well. Not as well since the charm changes but still well.

Enchanters rely on others to be at their peak efficiency, so why not take a group somewhere.

See my point above about grouping

Or if you really want to solo, start a solo class or duo like SK/Cleric.

I have a 65 Enchanter + Cleric. Its good enough to do most stuff.

Your problem is rooted in your unwillingness to explore; essentially the Allakhazam syndrome. Start exploring, and I think you'll find WR much more enjoyable.

Your assuming incorrectly. And im not saying the server cant be enjoyable, its great. But i do enjoy soloing and DCing, and the options are limited.

As a little example, a new zone was added a few days ago. Have you even set foot there?

No ive been away for a week and saw no mention on the WR main page so didnt know.

And even if you just want to solo or farm the equivalent of an FBSS, have you tried farming Paw, Lasanth, tried soloing First Ruins, or any other innumerable lguk-like spots?

Paw - no, thanks for the tip. Lasanth - Yes, wasnt fun with the amount of un-charmable mobs. Same goes for FR

You've created your own problem and expect the solution handed on a silver platter, but no matter how many more zones we add you're still not going to get off your ass and explore if you're not doing so now.

Thats not the case, i mentioned a bunch of zones ive tried out.

Also, since charm was changed it became a goal for me to find places to use Dire Charm which is much less hastle than the normal charm. I found one place which is perfect and i can make an AA per hour or so. But its not fun and theres no loot. I explored SK with a level 50 character i made specifically to con mobs and found them to be either too high or too low. Same goes for most zones.

I will be sure to try Paw, but other than Mielech, Eldenals, DN and a few other places i find myself limited.

So instead of attacking me, why not address my thoughts on some new quests for lvl 65's (specifically casters) and some utility items, and perhaps updating some existing zones that are often empty. Instead of adding new zones which i hear is time consuming.

And if itemization is an issue then why not give me a list of items and see if i can think up some new ones for some new zones or existing zones. Or ask one of the other GMs if they want to.

 

[Wiz]

So what this entire post boils down to is that you want more places to charm solo?

Also, there are a few quests for high-end casters dotted out there. Try hailing the Niklothar Chief in Greenlight. More are coming, and I appreciate the offer to help, but I've found it to be very very impractical to have people not on staff work on zones/items. If you have ideas for zones or quests, feel free to submit them to my e-mail.

 

[Anadin]

We have 4 xp group tanks, at the moment, able to do some of the most badass zones in the game.

Ritter, Gronuth, Alazif, Khalid. You have access to Khalid. You can one group ToT. You can do Cmal 3-2. You can do easily do Catacombs, which is a zone we haven't tapped nearly enough.

IMO, you need to take more initiative if you're bored. Don't play like this it's live, or you'll quit just like it's live. You need to start things, you can't just sit around and DC all the time.

I easily duo'd FG with 5khp and CA3. Shaman healing, dispelling, slowing, DoTing. You could easily kill there with tank, cleric, chanter, DPS.

Another possibility you haven't mentioned is spy hunting. Wiz just bumped probability of map drops off higher level spies, making treasure hunting, hopefully, more viable.

Also, Epics are on the table. As wiz said, quests are being worked on. As I tell everyone who says there aren't enough quests. We're a handful of months into a massive expansion, and content is still being worked in.

 

[acrobat]

So what this entire post boils down to is that you want more places to charm solo?

Yeah that would be nice

Also, there are a few quests for high-end casters dotted out there. Try hailing the Niklothar Chief in Greenlight.

thanks i'll find him

More are coming

Cool

and I appreciate the offer to help, but I've found it to be very very impractical to have people not on staff work on zones/items. If you have ideas for zones or quests, feel free to submit them to my e-mail.

Ok

You can one group ToT. You can do Cmal 3-2. You can do easily do Catacombs, which is a zone we haven't tapped nearly enough.

Yeah i like those places, although ive done them a bunch of times and finding places to take a group isnt really something i think is lacking. Finding a group can be hard tho sometimes, and sometimes grouping isnt that much fun. The tank pulls, the shaman slows, the cleric heals, and i cast nuke nuke nuke nuke med. And maybe mez if the puller isnt a monk.

I really enjoy soloing and DCing and soloed happily to 65. So many zones to choose from to get exp in, so many opportunities of a loot to drop that you want (like the quest armor), and so much to look forward to with each level. But those things mostly stop at 65

Another possibility you haven't mentioned is spy hunting. Wiz just bumped probability of map drops off higher level spies, making treasure hunting, hopefully, more viable.

Yeah i love the map hunting, although like i said, finding things to do with a full group isnt something that WR lacks. But its not something you can do when you have a few hours to play, especially when finding a full group in the first place can take a long time.

Also, Epics are on the table.

Thats something id love to see, although im not sure it offers much to do by myself.

As wiz said, quests are being worked on. As I tell everyone who says there aren't enough quests. We're a handful of months into a massive expansion, and content is still being worked in.

Great, i look forward to them. But in the meantime i feel a bit stuck with grouping at places ive visited often before and as loot is not as good as raid loot, the main goal is to make exp. Which is rarely as fast as soloing and is also something i dont especially need. I have some important AA's and the rest wont really help me solo, and wont help in a raid situation. Especially considering i cant mez anything on raids, im basically just buff support which could probably be done better by someone's bot.

I think Wiz is right, all i really want is things to solo that are charmable. But preferably with utility loots and in difficult places. Seeing as i cant charm undead, i cant visit Freeport, or FR, or anywhere with golems etc... Maybe a solution for me would be to just level up a Necro or Warrior+Shaman. It might give more scope for soloing and might be more fun on raids.

It would be a shame to feel like i wasted time with the enchanter though.

 

[Anadin]

My point is, it's not hard to find a group, if you're active about it.

Khal is one of the better tanks on the server, and he's available to you. There are 4 clerics available to you. You can slow.

If you can find either a tank, a cleric, someone willing to bot a tank, someone willing to bot a cleric, You have a four person group right there. Fill the other two slots with whoever the hell else you like, and you can do lots of things.

Don't complain about how hard it is to get groups, if you're not going to use the tools you have to make them.

 

[acrobat]

But finding a group isnt hard, i have lots of groups to fun places. But when i dont want to group or theres nobody online id like to be able to solo at somewhere 'special'. I can solo in the usual spots and i could do that constantly if i wanted to and end up with 500 AA's but i dont want to do that. I think if i was a warrior + cleric i wouldnt have a problem because i could buff the warrior sufficiently to solo nearly anywhere and do anything. But the chanter pet is pathetic so i can only solo where theres charmable mobs which limits my options.

But my main point for this thread is, even if i did have a warrior + cleric to solo anywhere, id like something else to work towards instead of just AA's. Maybe if, similar to those treasure maps, there was mini maps or something, i could solo and make some loot at the same time. I know a pally + druid who soloed FR and got spells and lots of cash aswell as exp. Even that would be an improvement on where i currently solo.

But currently im limited to several zones with charmable mobs and if i dont want the hassle of recharming every few minutes and not being able to recharm for a minute (therefore using lots of mana and stopping me from buffing my charmed pet) then im limited to just a few zones where i can dire charm - thats while dual clienting. And it gets old.

So you can tell me to just group 100% of the time, but i dont see why there couldnt be some quests that are soloable (or 2cliantable) and some more mobs in the world with sellable loot or usable utility loots. Atleast then i could have the option of grouping, soloing in my usual place for good AA exp, or doing something else - ie: some quests or some farming.

In the meantime i can level a warrior and shaman or cleric and DC them in some places that would be new to me, but thats a waste of an enchanter.

(i just thought of somewhere else i could DC at which would be fun and have a bonus in that spells drop there but id still like to see some quests and more options)

--edit-- omg i just thought of something else i can do.... which im gunna try out... It could be EXACTLY what i was hoping for... *doh*. Im not gunna say though incase others do the same thing.... Im still sure of a few things tho.... A) Id be better with several other classes than an enchanter for what i want to do. B) Soloing + DCing could be more fun if there was some more quests and mobs+loots designed for them. As much as you might want to keep the game as a group specific game, there has to be room for some more solo/DC specific content for quiet days and times you dont want to group etc..

 

[Wiz]

The inn task system in works should suit you then.

 

[acrobat]

Whats that going to be?

 

[rab]

Inn Task System

In addition to the task system of the Spies, a new system will be added in, aimed at more diverse levels. NPCs will spawn in the various inns and bars of the world, carrying with them randomly generated tasks that a single player can perform in exchange for a sizeable chunk of experience and perhaps a nice reward.

what's in store

 

[acrobat]

wow nice <3

 

[Edge]

Personally I can't wait for this to come into play . Back when I played EQLive I was very active because I kept my obligations very small (hey if I’m paying I want to get the most out of the game). Since I have quit EQLive I have upped my activities and responsibilities. When I found WR I find I'm not as active due to time spent on other activates. So when I do get some time to xp a little I just get on for a few minutes. Looking for a group in that time is kind of pointless when I’m about to leave at a drop of the hat and soloing just doesn't entertain me. I end up xping not for fun but just to level my character to a raid savvy status. A system that allowed me to gain a nice size of xp solo with out having to bug for buffs and then go solo would be SOOO awesome!! Can't wait to see what you guys rig up.